[CQ-Contest] IC-7300 VS IC-7410

Thu Apr 1 09:02:50 EDT 2021

Is this "BDR" spec listed on the sherwing site?

Joe WB9SBD

On 3/31/2021 11:24 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
> I have been using KX3 for many years along with K3 and FT991A here. I 
> would not recommend KX3 although its TX is pretty clean. KX3 has very 
> limited BDR and would be not as good as almost any superhet radio 
> with  crystal filter.
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>
>
> 01.04.2021 3:16, Joe пишет:
>> So fare we only have the three options actually now 4..
>> KX3 with 100 watt amp,
>> Ic-7300
>> IC-7410
>> Kenwood TS-430S
>>
>> Best rcvr according to the page is the KX3. but how clean is that 
>> radio with it's amp?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>>
>> On 3/31/2021 5:13 PM, ku8e wrote:
>>> No one mentioned the Kenwood TS590SG. I own one that I use as a 2nd 
>>> radio. I think it's a pretty good radio. When I do SO2R with 
>>> bandpass filters there doesn't seem to be any interference between 
>>> it and my K3. I remember when I owned an IC756PRO2 it got into the 
>>> K3 pretty good even with bandpass filters.
>>>
>>> We also use it when we go mobile as W4AN in the QSO parties.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
>>> Date: 3/31/21 4:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: donovanf at erols.com, CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IC-7300 VS IC-7410
>>>
>>> OK,
>>>
>>> The trend I see here is pretty strong Kill the 7300.
>>>
>>> OK how about a possible third Option?
>>>
>>> The KX3 with it's 100 watt amp?
>>>
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>
>>> On 3/31/2021 1:16 PM, donovanf at erols.com wrote:
>>> > Hi Joe,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I don't know about the IC-7410, but the IC-7300 is about the worst
>>> > transceiver you could ever use for Field Day unless you're planning
>>> > a one transmitter entry.
>>> >
>>> > IC-7300 transmitted phase noise makes it impossible for any other
>>> > transceiver to operate on the same band, and likely you will
>>> > need a high quality bandpass filter to operate another transceiver
>>> > on any another band with an antenna in proximity to the IC-7300's
>>> > antenna.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Its hard to beat the performance of the Elecraft K3 for a light 
>>> weight.
>>> > very low transmitted noise, high performance Field Day transceiver.
>>> > The FTdx101D is also excellent high performance, reasonably
>>> > light weight Field Day radio.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > If you don't have access to any of those, the trusty old FT-1000MP
>>> > is an excellent Field Day transceiver that outperforms most modern
>>> > radios from a transmitted noise perspective and its receiver 
>>> performance
>>> > is generally acceptable.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 73
>>> > Frank
>>> > W3LPL
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >
>>> > From: "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
>>> > To: CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 3:30:38 PM
>>> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] IC-7300 VS IC-7410
>>> >
>>> > Trying to decide which Rig to Use IC-7300 VS IC-7410.
>>> >
>>> > Last year Field Day was a Bust. But it looks pretty promising that 
>>> this
>>> > year it could be really close to a traditional Field Day YAY!
>>> >
>>> > Now In past years in my local club I am the only CW op of the 
>>> group. Sad
>>> > I know. And I'm just too old to do 24 hours single Op anymore.
>>> >
>>> > So in years past when a phone or digital station would be taking a 
>>> break
>>> > for whatever reason, I would sit down and use the station and make as
>>> > many CW contacts as I could until the other Op's came back. It worked
>>> > OK, Over the weekend Id make a few hundred CW contacts the club would
>>> > not have had.
>>> >
>>> > BUT this year is Different, A new guy moved in, and he's also a CW 
>>> man!
>>> > YES! So we said we will for Field Day this year make a dedicated 
>>> CW station!
>>> >
>>> > Now we are trying to decide which of those two rigs would be best at
>>> > Field Day?
>>> >
>>> > Most if not ALL rigs (most times we run 5A) have Band pass 
>>> filters, like.
>>> > https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/lbs-pb-f200-14?rrec=true
>>> >
>>> > And if we don't have one of those, we have many coaxial stub 
>>> notches we
>>> > can add to an offending station.
>>> >
>>> > So usually when we want to try to decide what Radio we want to 
>>> use, if
>>> > there is a choice, and no one really has a personal preference, we
>>> > usually go by the Data Bob gives us at,
>>> > http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
>>> >
>>> > Using the Sorted by Third-Order Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced - or- 
>>> ARRL
>>> > RMDR (Reciprocal Mixing Dynamic Range) if Phase Noise Limited as the
>>> > deciding factor.
>>> >
>>> > We are both amazed at the difference of close in spec's between these
>>> > two radios!
>>> > 97 for the 7300 VS only 78 for the 7410,, is it really that much
>>> > difference!?
>>> >
>>> > Wow!
>>> >
>>> > So am I to think correctly in a Field Day setting would the 7300 
>>> be the
>>> > better radio?
>>> >
>>> > Joe WB9SBD
>>> >
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