[CQ-Contest] RES: CQ WPX M/M Distributed Category Update

[Jeff Clarke]

Rich,

I don't think Ray is being criticized about opening his stations on 
Remote Ham Radio to new (youth) contesters. He has lots of enthusiasm 
about doing that. Good for him.

I think the whole issue that K9YC pointed out is the concept of a 
distributed contesting from multiple station locations category. As K5ZD 
pointed out "Distributed MM is likely never going to be a major 
category." So it's really just a fad. As I pointed out in a couple of my 
emails Ray's vision of allowing youth contesters to operate from a big 
gun station would have been better served by organizing seven different 
Multi-Multis from the stations he has on his Remote Ham Radio network. 
That would have allowed even more new contesters to participate in his 
endeavor.

I'm a living example of someone who was taken in (and mentored) by some 
big time contesters in my youth. To this day I've still never owned a 
tower at my home QTH ( I chose family stuff over radio) but despite this 
I seem to do pretty good in some contests from an all wire station. I 
attribute that to what I learned during the days I got to operate at 
some nice big gun stations such as K3LR, K8CC, KW8N, N2NU, KS8S, W8AV, 
W8FN, NQ4I, WW4LL etc..

Jeff


On 4/2/2021 01:22 PM, Richard F DiDonna NN3W wrote:
> Im not seeing what the concern is with respect to a multi-multi.  Lets be
> honest, many of the new kids who we've managed to get into the hobby are
> not putting up huge towers at their home QTHs and they're not independently
> making thousands of QSOs from home.  Many of them are 1) teens who have to
> get approval from the parents for a station (which requires money), and 2)
> located in suburbs where HOAs rule the day and many of them CANNOT
> effectively get on the air even if they wanted to from their homes in the
> traditional sense of getting on the air.
>
> When I was growing up in the 1980s, I had supportive parents but lived an
> area where ham radio was granted with only indifference.  I had a TA33-Jr
> mounted on a roof tower which was - at best - 25 feet in the air.  If you
> wanted to make a "splash", more often than not you had to go to a host QTH
> where an established ham had a couple of towers and some read hardware.
> K6XT was the guy who really guided me along and I've been grateful to Art
> ever since.  Beyond Art there was Rick Craig's QTH (N6ND).
>
> That a station owner is willing to open his station(s) up to new contesters
> should be commended - not chastised.
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM Martin, LU5DX <lu5dx at lucg.com.ar> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ray,
>>
>> I think you and the rest of the teams that entered the Multi-Operator
>> Distributed category did a really amazing thing inviting young people.
>> Facilitating that, is above and beyond anything we usually do as
>> contesters.
>> What you guys did serves a higher purpose.
>> Hopefully others will follow, on-site and remote.
>> Congratulations.
>>
>> Vy 73,
>>
>> Martín, LU5DX
>>
>> El vie., 2 abr. 2021 9:19 a. m., Ray Higgins <ray.w2re at gmail.com>
>> escribió:
>>
>>> 5/17 M/M that posted on 3830 operated distributed. So basically 30% of
>> all
>>> M/M experimented in this category. I’m already in contact - they reached
>>> out to us from M/M stations in Europe on how to do.
>>>
>>> My post is about the excitement it has generated with young people and
>>> some of us OM. We have a youth program that is growing just not here in
>> the
>>> USA but worldwide. The very first dedicated youth station is on the air
>>> from Europe (Croatia) for young hams under the age of 26. We are doing
>> the
>>> same with generous hams or organizations in England, Norway, Puerto Rico
>>> and USA right now, these locations will come online soon. It gets even
>>> better, youths are giving back to youths. We have a few youths on the
>>> program that have opened up their own personal station(s) for other
>> youths
>>> to enjoy. Anyone that follows me on social media knows about all of this.
>>>
>>> We’re not doing this alone, we have generous station owners,
>> organizations
>>> and Flex Radio all joining forces to make this happen. We have an
>>> announcement forthcoming on the organizations that have joined forces.
>>>
>>> Young people are attracted to contesting - it’s like gaming to them. Just
>>> look at CWT results - you have some playing with the best in the world.
>> Two
>>> of the youths actually experimented in a M/2 distributed in CWT at the
>> 0300
>>> session this Weds and made 300 Q’s and 70,000+ points but didn’t submit a
>>> score because the category doesn’t exist, they did it to have fun. These
>>> are just some of the cool things you may not be hearing or seeing but
>> it’s
>>> actually happening.
>>>
>>> This is my last post on this subject here. You can follow us on FB or
>>> Twitter to get the latest updates on what’s happening.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Ray W2RE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 2, 2021, at 1:51 AM, Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 4/1/2021 5:55 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
>>>>> How is a DM any different than a Multi-Multi
>>>> Operator mentoring/learning and camaraderie are present at a physical
>>> multi. Far less so
>>>> A physical multi is usually a superior station, so builds operator
>> skill
>>> by providing higher rate.
>>>> My objections have nothing to do with technology, it's about more calls
>>> to work. A DM provides one call to work. Those same stations signing
>> their
>>> own calls increase the number of active stations, making the contest more
>>> fun for the rest of us.
>>>> 73, Jim K9YC
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