[CQ-Contest] NAQP CW - Rules Changes Needed

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

Jeff, that's just plain nasty.  Don't tell me that AA3B, K3WW, N3RD, and 
50 others I could name don't hold themselves to the same standard in CWT 
as when they operate in "real" contests.

Enough - this has, as usual, degenerated and wandered off topic.  I'm 
sorry I started it, though I think my original point, that Assisted 
should be recognized as a separate class in NAQP, remains a good one.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 8/10/2021 9:13 PM, ku8e wrote:
> CWT isn't even a real contest because they don't check logs. Someone 
> could post a bogus score to 3830 and no one would even know. No one 
> would even care anyway.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at advanced-conversion.com>
> Date: 8/10/21 8:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr at gmail.com>, reflector cq-contest 
> <CQ-Contest at Contesting.COM>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW - Rules Changes Needed
>
> Hi Pete.  No offense but CWT is not a major contest.  And if many more 
> people are CQing than S & Ping then your point & click rate are of 
> course going to be high.  Try doing that in CQWW with an HOA dipole 
> hidden in the trees and I think you will understand what I mean.
>
> Assisted helps find mults for sure.  And it can give you nice bursts 
> of rate.  But with limited power or antennas, over the whole contest, 
> its more an act of frustration than benefit in my opinion.
>
> As a supplement to running in SO2R, or with a major station where you 
> are going to be first or second call in the pile for every station, 
> that’s a horse of a different color.
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
> From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 5:10 PM
> To: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at advanced-conversion.com>; reflector 
> cq-contest <CQ-Contest at Contesting.COM>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW - Rules Changes Needed
>
>
> Ed, I have to quibble with your last paragraph.  If you use the 
> Available Mults & Qs window in N1MM+, and set it to show the newest 
> spots at the top, then you can click there and almost always find 
> someone in the first 2 or three who has not been answered yet.  I've 
> routinely seen last-10 S&P rates of over 210/hr this way, and my best 
> all-S&P CWT is over 120 Qs in an hour.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
>
> web server at 
> <http://beta.reversebeacon.net><http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
>
> For spots, please use your favorite
>
> "retail" DX cluster.
> On 8/10/2021 1:31 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
>
> I almost never enter NAQP officially because I don't typically have 
> the time when it comes around to get serious.  Yet Vermont is a 
> desired mult.  So I typically fire up the amp and just run for an hour 
> or two as I did last weekend (about 80 mins).  Just to give out the mult.
>
>
>
> Doesn't matter to me what the rules are.  I am just handing out mults.
>
>
>
> If people like assisted, nothing prevents them from doing the same.
>
>
>
> And as someone who ran 10 years low power, I can tell you that 
> assisted provides ZERO help in S & P.  It does however help you "get 
> found" with the skimmer.  But you don't have to enter assisted to get 
> that benefit.
>
>
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
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