[CQ-Contest] Delayed Callers

[Duncan Fisken]

Speaking as another who was 99% S&P last weekend, I can really identify with Mike's comments. I had the same experience several times and REALLY appreciated the running station's patience in sending me my report twice or even three times. 

On a slightly different tack, I was trying hard to get through the pile up to work one of the ZM's early Sunday morning and, having finally got through heard them send the first three letters of my call when, zap, the house/shack power failed (one of seven such failures in 90 minutes; all very short but enough to be a real pain and probably a consequence of the severe weekend storms!). A minute or two later everything is back up and running and wow, the ZM is still there and this time responded to my first call. I cannot remember the call, but THANK YOU!

73,
Duncan, G3WZD

On 03/12/2021, 02:24, "CQ-Contest on behalf of Michael Ritz" <cq-contest-bounces+duncan.fisken=g3wzd.radio at contesting.com on behalf of w7vo at comcast.net> wrote:

    Here's another view from somebody who was 100% S&P last weekend. Say somebody I need as a double-mult is calling CQ, and I put my callsign in the pile-up to work him. While the pile-up is still calling, the needed station comes back with "W7VO 5911". I can't hear him come back to me over the pile-up, and can only hear him when the pile up dies down. Then he comes back with a "W7VO 5911" a second time, or maybe even a third time, and I finally can give him my exchange. I feel bad that he had to come back to me several times, but it's not my fault the lids just keep calling over the QSO. I really APPRECIATE that the op stuck with me to make the QSO. That happened to me several times last weekend. 

    73;
    Mike
    W7VO   


    > On 12/02/2021 1:37 PM kq2m at kq2m.com wrote:
    > 
    >  
    > Love it!  Fred that's a great description of my reasoning as well and 
    > EXACTLY what I do.
    > 
    > When someone calls and I give them a report and they don't respond once, 
    > twice, I have already lost callers in my pileup and valuable qso's that 
    > I could have made.  And then when that loud station calls again, they 
    > are qrming the rest of the pileup AGAIN and I lose more callers because 
    > they have called yet again and still did not work me and they get 
    > frustrated and qsy.
    > 
    > It's one thing if the 2 radio op got confused and made a mistake.  I 
    > certainly have made my share of mistakes; BUT, I NEVER called a DX 
    > station on THEIR freq. and then made them wait for me while I worked 
    > someone on another band.  That's exceptionally rude operating.
    > 
    > In my experience this problem seems limited to the Multi ops.  The SO2R 
    > guys, even if they are new at SO2R, seem to do a MUCH better job of 
    > responding quickly.
    > 
    > 73
    > 
    > Bob, KQ2M
    > 
    > 
    > On 2021-12-02 14:19, Fred Kleber wrote:
    > > I do not have a lot of patience for SO2R / In-band, or whatever kind
    > > of stations that don’t come back after two calls.  If I have a pileup,
    > > my time and rate is just as valuable as the delayed caller’s.
    > > 
    > > My rule is two responses and if the delayed caller doesn’t come back,
    > > either they don’t copy me well or they are waiting for a QSO to finish
    > > on another radio.  Regardless, I then either CQ or QRZ.  Of course
    > > this strategy might be different for someone who is from a call area
    > > with an abundance of callers.
    > > 
    > > If the calling station still wants a QSO, they can call again, but if
    > > there are other callers, I will use a ‘mental band pass’ filter to
    > > give other callers priority, as it is highly likely I will get a
    > > quicker reply from a different station.  If the calling station is
    > > obviously a newer call, KF0XYZ,etc. then I will be more forgiving
    > > regarding a response.
    > > 
    > > On the flip side, I rarely call a station more than 3 times.  If the
    > > station is a mult, I then evaluate the mult vs. QSO ratio and decide
    > > how long to call.
    > > 
    > > YMMV.  Back to net….
    > > 
    > > 73,
    > > Fred, NP2X
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