[CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots

Sun Dec 5 17:30:37 EST 2021

And what, exactly prevents people from running an unauthorized spotting network not controlled by “the authorities”

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73 de KG2V
Charlie

> On Dec 5, 2021, at 3:08 AM, Martin, LU5DX <lu5dx at lucg.com.ar> wrote:
> 
> How does the ARRL validate the authenticity of the data uploaded to LoTW?
> Same method could be applied here.
> The network should only allow trafic from users who have completed KYC, and
> authenticate with either, certificates SSH keys, 2FA, etc.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Martín, LU5DX
> 
> El sáb., 4 dic. 2021 13:34, Barry W2UP <w2up.co at gmail.com> escribió:
> 
>> Let's put things in perspective.  Multi-billion dollar corporations can't
>> stop Rachel from Cardholder Services.  How are we going to stop this?
>> 
>> Barry W2UP
>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 11:29 AM Randy Thompson <k5zd at outlook.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This problem cannot be “solved” without adding some level of
>>> authentication to the spotting system. Right now anyone can spot anything
>>> using any call.
>>> 
>>> The WW Committee lacks subpoena power so it may not be able to ever
>>> identify the rogue spotter.
>>> 
>>> K5ZD
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:35 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, Tim, but I think a lot of us have a legitimate interest in
>>> seeing this solved, and being patted on the hand and told to sit down and
>>> be quiet doesn't go over well with me.  I got a status report from K1AR,
>>> which is all I was looking for.
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>>> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
>>>> web server at<
>>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbeta.reversebeacon.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=7lCLI4Og98QlyiE%2BVraPpQsePSwljzRiI6P75%2BYnRSw%3D&reserved=0
>>>> .
>>>> For spots, please use your favorite
>>>> "retail" DX cluster.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/3/2021 9:18 PM, Tim Duffy wrote:
>>>>> Hello Pete
>>>>> 
>>>>> What makes you think that nothing is being done? Do not worry.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Be assured that the CQWW committee has this and many other issues well
>>> in hand
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Tim K3LR
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces+k3lr=
>>> k3lr.com at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Pete Smith N4ZR
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 10:13 AM
>>>>> To: reflector cq-contest
>>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm really surprised at the apparent disregard for VE7CC's report of
>>>>> spoofed spots and spoofed self-spots during CQWWCW, all seemingly
>> traced
>>>>> to a single IP in Italy.  After the first time this happened, a month
>>>>> earlier (CQWWSSB), we were assured that the committee had it in hand,
>>>>> with reliable reps in Italy pursuing the answer.  Since then, nothing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How about a status report - if people can pull this sort of thing with
>>>>> impunity, it will certainly damage efforts to enforce the appropriate
>>>>> rule against self-spotting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To refresh memories:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ">From the VE7CC-1 cluster log.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 27 Nov total spoofed spots 599 out of 30018  non skimmer spots.
>>>>> 28 Nov total spoofed spots 1117 out of  30073 non skimmer spots.
>>>>> Total 1716 spoofed spots from IP 217.61.58.23 over weekend.
>>>>>  Includes
>>>>> 203 self spots 27 Nov 2021
>>>>> 385 self spots 28 Nov 2021
>>>>> 
>>>>> These spoofed spots are only the ones that I identified with IP
>>> 217.61.58.23.
>>>>> These spots were entered on both DX Spider and CC Cluster nodes.
>> There
>>> could
>>>>> be more from AR Cluster or Spider nodes running software that doesn't
>>> include
>>>>> IP addresses.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbcdxc.org%2Fve7cc%2FSelfSpot-Nov-2021.zip&data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=xoqcCu7sSackHgyh1syNhol3nhuS%2BNrP3LMGtxCeDbo%3D&reserved=0
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbcdxc.org%2Fve7cc%2F27-Nov-2021.zip&data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=99VqvStINvHlxk2M3puppARkDzzB3ZKMZvZZff6XdlM%3D&reserved=0
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbcdxc.org%2Fve7cc%2F28-Nov-2021.zip&data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=MiiuQfN1wUu2nTTJxZYiIeta2OYIhEdx%2FWLJ9LcjbPU%3D&reserved=0
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lee VE7CC"
>>>>> 
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