[CQ-Contest] Remote Operating - Cross County

[rjairam at gmail.com]

Not every country is the same.

Even with IARP in some countries you need to contact local authorities
before you operate.

Ham radio may be “just a hobby” in the USA but in other places not
following local rules can result in equipment confiscation, steep fines
and/or prison time.

Best to check the local rules before you operate and get it direct from
them.

I know in dealing with TATT that the rules have changed from time to time
and information from foreign sources (eg ARRL) isn’t always up to date.

73
Ria
N2RJ

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 11:22 AM Bruce Horn <bhorn at hornucopia.com> wrote:

> Some references:
>
> From N0AX's Ham Radio for Dummies:
> License authority: You have to be licensed at the location of the
> transmitted signal. Some U.S. hams have set up stations in other countries
> or in other areas of the world, such as the Caribbean. This requires either
> a local license or a reciprocal operating permit. You can find out more
> about either of those at the ARRL’s web page for International Operating.
> Some types of operating permission require you to be physically present in
> the licensing country, so be sure to read the fine print!
>
> From K6UFO's presentation on remote operating:
> US Station, with Operator outside of US:
> Operator must be “licensed” by a US License, bilateral, reciprocal,
> IARP agreement or CEPT T/R 61-01. The call sign used must
> always indicate the location of the transmitter.
>
> 73 de Bruce, WA7BNM   (bhorn at hornucopia.com)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Walker" <va3mw at portcredit.net>
> To: "Edward Sawyer" <EdwardS at advanced-conversion.com>
> Cc: "cq-contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:40:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Operating - Cross County
>
> Hi Edward
>
> The challenge is, of course, the regulations have not kept up to
> technology.
>
> In Canada, I had an Radio Inspector describe remote HF operation as a long
> Mic cord.  There are no laws that say the operator has to be sitting in the
> same room as the radio station.  You are still governed by the laws based
> on the location of the physical transmitter.
>
> Reciprocal licensing only comes into play if you want to use your callsign
> while operating from a foreign country.  It does not apply if you are guest
> operating (which is what this is).  In fact, you can be a guest operator
> without having a license as long as another correctly licensed ham is in
> complete control of the station.
>
> 73, Mike va3mw
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:09 AM Edward Sawyer <
> EdwardS at advanced-conversion.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually I don’t believe you are correct.  When you are “in person” in
> the
> > country, you are governed by the reciprocal licensing of the 2 countries
> > for people visiting.  There is nothing in that normal language that
> > discussing doing that virtually for most countries (maybe some have added
> > language – not sure).  An internet connection does not make you “in the
> > country”.  Which is a good thing for tax purposes….
> >
> >
> >
> > This is in fact the question.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed  N1UR
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Michael Walker <va3mw at portcredit.net>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2021 8:03 AM
> > *To:* Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at advanced-conversion.com>
> > *Cc:* cq-contest at contesting.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Operating - Cross County
> >
> >
> >
> > This would be the same if I visited from Canada to the US and visited
> > someones station and operated a contest from their callsign.  Nothing
> wrong
> > with that as long as it doesn't exceed the terms of my license.   Think
> of
> > it as a long mic cord.  :)
> >
> >
> >
> > The question is can I 'keep' the QSO's in my person log?
> >
> >
> >
> > Good question.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike va3mw
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:13 PM Edward Sawyer <
> > EdwardS at advanced-conversion.com> wrote:
> >
> > I continue to see postings of scores by a ham outside the US operating a
> > US based remote site.  The hams do not have their own US callsign and
> > "borrow" someone else's callsign from the US.  I am pretty sure this is
> an
> > illegal operation in the US.  Am I missing something?  Its happening
> pretty
> > much every contest now.
> >
> > Ed  N1UR
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