[CQ-Contest] Spoofed Self spots

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

O(K, understood about VPNs, etc.  So SQRL looks good - what stands in 
the way?

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 11/1/2021 9:10 PM, K3IB Peter wrote:
> Identifying bad guys by IP addresses is not a thing any more.
>
> I can change my home IP address at will.  Good luck getting Comcast to tell you what IP address was on my router 3 days ago.
>
> I can also attack from dozens of countries around the world by using one of any number of inexpensive VPN services.
>
> The best way forward is for clusters to start authenticating their users with a simple, widely available mechanism like SQRL.
>
> -peter K3IB
>
>
>
>> IIRC, maybe 20 years ago Dave, K1TTT did some pioneering work in
>> identifying self-spotters, I think through the use of IP addresses  It
>> may be that the same techniques can be used today - or maybe they can at
>> least demonstrate that these were *not* self-spots. Dave?
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
>> web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
>> For spots, please use your favorite
>> "retail" DX cluster.
>>
>> On 11/1/2021 2:46 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
>>> Wow, what a surprise.  I just went and looked at my cluster and sure
>>> enough.
>>>
>>> I was running unassisted and I see that I spotted myself twice.
>>>
>>> This is not good and the only reason is for someone to ensure that the
>>> cluster logging can't be trusted.
>>>
>>> Mike va3mw
>>>
>>>
>>> VA3MW-7>
>>>     7215.1  VA3MW       31-Oct-2021 2319Z
>>> <VA3MW>
>>>     7215.1  VA3MW       31-Oct-2021 2313Z
>>> <WT8WV>
>>>     7215.1  VA3MW       31-Oct-2021 2305Z  LSB
>>> <N2YO>
>>>     7214.9  VA3MW       31-Oct-2021 2252Z  LSB
>>> <N4SS>
>>>     7215.0  VA3MW       31-Oct-2021 2249Z
>>>    <W3MR>
>>>     7215.0  VA3MW       31-Oct-2021 2244Z  LSB
>>> <WU9D>
>>>     7215.0  VA3MW       31-Oct-2021 2237Z
>>>    <N3GT>
>>>     7215.0  VA3MW       31-Oct-2021 2235Z  LSB
>>>    <AC3LZ>
>>>     7215.1  VA3MW       31-Oct-2021 2211Z
>>> <VA3MW>
>>>     7215.1  VA3MW       31-Oct-2021 2205Z
>>> <KE1IH>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 1:39 PM Dave K2XR via CQ-Contest <
>>> cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> GM contesters.  Hope you all are resting well.
>>>>
>>>> In the FRC chat room we have been discussing the abundance of apparent
>>>> self spots during the contest.  Many of our participants who run had
>>>> their callsigns spoofed and spots of themselves made. It seems to have
>>>> happened to enough of us that the question was posed...   'Was it just
>>>> FRC that was targeted, or was it all contesters? "
>>>>
>>>> Looking on this reflector as well as the 3830 reflector, it didn't take
>>>> long to see that it wasn't just FRC.
>>>>
>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/3830/2021-11/msg00174.html
>>>>
>>>> Curious to know who else out there was targeted.  The were about 10
>>>> cases in the chat room I was in this AM, and suspect it might have been
>>>> a huge problem.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way for the sysops to track down the origin ?     I would
>>>> think so, but am not positive.
>>>>
>>>> It would be great to nail the perpetrator, and some of us are demanding
>>>> it if it is all possible.  Kind of ruins everything for some.
>>>>
>>>>        Dave   K2XR      Frankford Radio Club
>>>>
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