[CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

[Paul O'Kane]

This argument is futile.  Regardless of how FT8 works, CW is an analog 
mode along its entire RF signal path - a mode that can be decoded by 
people.   If CW is sliced and diced to make it a digital RF mode that 
has to be un-sliced and un-diced before being output in an audible form, 
then it's no longer CW.

AB7E is welcome to his "enhanced CW", but count me out - it's time to 
get real.

73,
Paul EI5DI


On 19/02/2022 20:55, David Gilbert wrote:
>
> I know how FT8 works (I've studied Joe's papers and researched the 
> principles) and I would have no intention of making anything else work 
> like FT8 does.  It's simply too restrictive, particularly for 
> contesting.  But the signal processing behind FT8 is applicable to 
> several different communication formats.  If you really knew how FT8 
> works you'd understand that.
>
> Dave  AB7E
>
>
> On 2/18/2022 2:30 PM, Peter Voelpel wrote:
>> You better read how FT-8 works and compare
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Gilbert [mailto:ab7echo at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Freitag, 18. Februar 2022 22:13
>> To: Peter Voelpel; cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
>>
>>
>> Wrong.  FT8 has nothing to do with CW, but the signal processing behind
>> it could be used to significantly enhance CW.  Think RTTY with MUCH
>> better S/N and an audible output instead of text on the screen.
>>
>> 73,
>> Dave   AB7E
>>
>>
>> On 2/18/2022 12:03 PM, Peter Voelpel wrote:
>>> That communication technique has nothing in common with CW at all!
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Peter, DJ7WW
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CQ-Contest
>>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces+dj7ww=t-online.de at contesting.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of
>>> David Gilbert
>>>
>>> The signal processing techniques utilized in FT8 could have been 
>>> used to
>>> enhance the signal-to-noise of normal CW in a way that would have been
>>> virtually transparent to the operator
>>>
>>
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