[CQ-Contest] Remote, Elecraft K3, Mumble, PC, AnyDesk - audio

[William Liporace]

Isn't the AnyDesk free client timing out?? Seeing more issues recently!
Starting to look at RustDesk!

Will WC2L

On 11/22/2022 5:27 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
> Just to follow up on this one,  I did an Anydesk session with Scott last
> night, and after some experimentation, we discovered the problem.
>
> Scott had done everything right.
>
> It turns out he has three Elecraft K3 radios -- not K3s.   They have
> line-level audio in and out.
> For some unknown reason, his mic audio was coming back on the line out when
> transmitting, even with the Monitor turned all the way off.
> If we took the audio out from the speaker vs line out, the problem went
> away and Mumble works perfectly.
>
> So -- either there is some weird K3 setting that causes this (and I've been
> using them 20+ years and don't know about it), or there
> is something astray in the I/O board of the K3.   Anyway, we have a root
> cause.
>
> 73
>
> Gerry W1VE
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 7:31 AM<w5wz at w5wz.com>  wrote:
>
>> Anydesk audio is set to disable.  Problem remains.
>>
>> --Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2022-11-16 15:07, Gerry Hull wrote:
>>
>> Yup.  That is exactly the problem, Bob.  I PM'd Scott.
>> Anydesk has its one-way audio ON by default, and it uses the default sound
>> card.
>> If the default sound card has the MIC audio on it, volia -- feedback.
>> Just go to the Anydesk control panel of the station, and unclick the blue
>> speaker icon, or
>> disable it permanently by going into settings and turning off audio.
>>
>> Generally, Mumble has much better latency that Anydesk audio.
>> (Also, remember to turn off Echo Cancellation and Noise Suppression for
>> best
>> audio quality.)
>>
>> BTW, If anyone is interested, I have public Murmur servers around the
>> world that are available for Amateur Radio use only.
>> These are geographically located for lowest latency.
>> na.audio.radiosport.network (Northeast US)
>> sa.audio.radiosport.network (South America, server in Miami)
>> eu.audio.radiosport.network (EU; server in DL)
>> asia.audio.radiosport.network (AS, in LAX)
>> arctic.audio.radiosport.network (in northern Canada)
>>
>> More will be coming online.
>> The advantage of using a hosted mumble server is there is no need for
>> Static IP and can be used behind ipv6 and CGNAT, like Starlink or cell
>> phone service.
>>
>> All servers are on the default port, snd the password is: Demo   (case
>> sensitive)
>>
>> If you want your own private mumble server, contact me.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Gerry W1VE
>> gerry at w1ve.com
>>
>> (see ya from VY1AAA in SS SSB; I'm connecting via Mumble/Anydesk! :-)  )
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 3:43 PM K5WA<k5wa at comcast.net>  wrote:
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>>
>>
>> You may be hearing the audio that is transferred through AnyDesk itself.
>> Since you don't need it for the radios, turn the station PC audio volume to
>> zero or mute it and see if the echo goes away.  There may be a setting
>> within AnyDesk that turns off the ability to transfer audio as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Bob K5WA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 1
>>
>> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 09:58:38 -0600
>>
>> From:w5wz at w5wz.com  <mailto:w5wz at w5wz.com>
>>
>> To:cq-contest at contesting.com  <mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Remote, Elecraft K3, Mumble, PC, AnyDesk - audio
>>
>>                  configuration help needed
>>
>> Message-ID: <6dc2ce0bd5811b332baf74d2813c67fc at w5wz.com
>> <mailto:6dc2ce0bd5811b332baf74d2813c67fc at w5wz.com>  >
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm working toward the remote operation of my station.  I have my Mumble
>> server working, with a channel for each radio.  At each operating position,
>> I connect the radio to the PC, and on that PC connect to Mumble as Rig-x,
>> and enter the channel Rig-x.
>>
>>
>>
>> Remotely, I connect to the PC for Rig-x via AnyDesk, and also connect to
>> Mumble as W5WZ and enter the channel for Rig-x.  I can hear the received
>> audio from the receiver on the Mumble channel.  With vox enabled on my K3,
>> my spoken audio from the remote location via the Mumble channel does
>> properly key the transmitter.
>>
>>
>>
>> BUT, the problem I am having is that my remotely spoken audio, while the
>> transmitter is keyed, is coming back into my ears via the Mumble channel
>> (causing me to babble!).  Monitor function on the K3 is turned off.
>>
>>
>>
>> I feel like I'm missing something very simple.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> --Scott, W5WZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest

-- 
William Liporace WC2L
http://www.wc2l.com  orhttp://dxc.wc2l.com
AR-Cluster Node  telnet dxc.wc2l.com or 144.93 MHz
wc2l at wc2l.com