[CQ-Contest] Remote, Elecraft K3, Mumble, PC, AnyDesk - audio

[Gerry Hull]

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Gerry W1VE

On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 7:07 AM William Liporace <wc2l at wc2l.com> wrote:

> Isn't the AnyDesk free client timing out?? Seeing more issues recently!
> Starting to look at RustDesk!
>
> Will WC2L
>
> On 11/22/2022 5:27 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
> > Just to follow up on this one,  I did an Anydesk session with Scott last
> > night, and after some experimentation, we discovered the problem.
> >
> > Scott had done everything right.
> >
> > It turns out he has three Elecraft K3 radios -- not K3s.   They have
> > line-level audio in and out.
> > For some unknown reason, his mic audio was coming back on the line out
> when
> > transmitting, even with the Monitor turned all the way off.
> > If we took the audio out from the speaker vs line out, the problem went
> > away and Mumble works perfectly.
> >
> > So -- either there is some weird K3 setting that causes this (and I've
> been
> > using them 20+ years and don't know about it), or there
> > is something astray in the I/O board of the K3.   Anyway, we have a root
> > cause.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Gerry W1VE
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 7:31 AM<w5wz at w5wz.com>  wrote:
> >
> >> Anydesk audio is set to disable.  Problem remains.
> >>
> >> --Scott
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2022-11-16 15:07, Gerry Hull wrote:
> >>
> >> Yup.  That is exactly the problem, Bob.  I PM'd Scott.
> >> Anydesk has its one-way audio ON by default, and it uses the default
> sound
> >> card.
> >> If the default sound card has the MIC audio on it, volia -- feedback.
> >> Just go to the Anydesk control panel of the station, and unclick the
> blue
> >> speaker icon, or
> >> disable it permanently by going into settings and turning off audio.
> >>
> >> Generally, Mumble has much better latency that Anydesk audio.
> >> (Also, remember to turn off Echo Cancellation and Noise Suppression for
> >> best
> >> audio quality.)
> >>
> >> BTW, If anyone is interested, I have public Murmur servers around the
> >> world that are available for Amateur Radio use only.
> >> These are geographically located for lowest latency.
> >> na.audio.radiosport.network (Northeast US)
> >> sa.audio.radiosport.network (South America, server in Miami)
> >> eu.audio.radiosport.network (EU; server in DL)
> >> asia.audio.radiosport.network (AS, in LAX)
> >> arctic.audio.radiosport.network (in northern Canada)
> >>
> >> More will be coming online.
> >> The advantage of using a hosted mumble server is there is no need for
> >> Static IP and can be used behind ipv6 and CGNAT, like Starlink or cell
> >> phone service.
> >>
> >> All servers are on the default port, snd the password is: Demo   (case
> >> sensitive)
> >>
> >> If you want your own private mumble server, contact me.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Gerry W1VE
> >> gerry at w1ve.com
> >>
> >> (see ya from VY1AAA in SS SSB; I'm connecting via Mumble/Anydesk! :-)  )
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 3:43 PM K5WA<k5wa at comcast.net>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Scott,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You may be hearing the audio that is transferred through AnyDesk itself.
> >> Since you don't need it for the radios, turn the station PC audio
> volume to
> >> zero or mute it and see if the echo goes away.  There may be a setting
> >> within AnyDesk that turns off the ability to transfer audio as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good luck,
> >>
> >> Bob K5WA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >>
> >> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 09:58:38 -0600
> >>
> >> From:w5wz at w5wz.com  <mailto:w5wz at w5wz.com>
> >>
> >> To:cq-contest at contesting.com  <mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>
> >> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Remote, Elecraft K3, Mumble, PC, AnyDesk - audio
> >>
> >>                  configuration help needed
> >>
> >> Message-ID: <6dc2ce0bd5811b332baf74d2813c67fc at w5wz.com
> >> <mailto:6dc2ce0bd5811b332baf74d2813c67fc at w5wz.com>  >
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm working toward the remote operation of my station.  I have my Mumble
> >> server working, with a channel for each radio.  At each operating
> position,
> >> I connect the radio to the PC, and on that PC connect to Mumble as
> Rig-x,
> >> and enter the channel Rig-x.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Remotely, I connect to the PC for Rig-x via AnyDesk, and also connect to
> >> Mumble as W5WZ and enter the channel for Rig-x.  I can hear the received
> >> audio from the receiver on the Mumble channel.  With vox enabled on my
> K3,
> >> my spoken audio from the remote location via the Mumble channel does
> >> properly key the transmitter.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> BUT, the problem I am having is that my remotely spoken audio, while the
> >> transmitter is keyed, is coming back into my ears via the Mumble channel
> >> (causing me to babble!).  Monitor function on the K3 is turned off.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I feel like I'm missing something very simple.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any thoughts?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --Scott, W5WZ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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