[CQ-Contest] Dead horse #99

[Art Boyars]

Thanks for the re-clarification, John.

The case I'm describing is covered, if at all, only under "other methods".
If, after the contest, I notice that I typed "KV01" am I prohibited from
correcting it to "KV0I", using only the database in my head?  (There is no
such call as KV01.  I know I worked KV0I -- I remember being happy that I
had the Nebraska multiplier in the log.  I can even find the QSO in my log,
with the NE Section.)

"It's extremely rare that fixing a couple typo errors is going to make a
meaningful difference in your result or final standing."

That depends on how much I needed that Nebraska mult  :>)


"Oddly, it seems easier to me to fix the problem while operating vs. taking
the time to create a note. Maybe I'm missing something with that
assumption?"

You are missing two things: 1) You type a lot better than I do; 2) Some of
us are slow/clumsy enough typists that it's faster to grab our every-handy
pencil and jot a note on a piece of paper.  (And I'd allow mental notes, if
you are honest about it.)  Again :>)

73, Art K3KU


On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 3:16 PM John Dorr <cqk1ar at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Art,
>
> Thanks for raising this issue. The CQ WW rules are pretty clear about this
> topic:
>
> * Correction of logged call signs and exchanges after the contest, by use
> of any database, recordings, email or other methods, is not allowed.*
>
> While I personally don't make changes from notes created DURING the
> contest, I don't believe the rule suggests that specific practice as being
> illegal. In sharp contrast, log cleansing against databases or recordings
> after the contest is very unsportsmanlike and clearly against the rules.
> Oddly, it seems easier to me to fix the problem while operating vs. taking
> the time to create a note. Maybe I'm missing something with that assumption?
>
> In the end, however, my advice is to simply submit your log right after
> the contest. It takes about 30 seconds for most people. It's extremely rare
> that fixing a couple typo errors is going to make a meaningful difference
> in your result or final standing. Questions about why you're taking "all
> week" to submit is another matter and a contributor to one's negative
> reputation. The choice is obvious in my mind.
>
> 73, John, K1AR
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 2:40 PM Art Boyars <artboyars at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I saw somewhere a discussion about how to rescore a log when fixing a typo
>> error that was noticed AFTER the contest.
>>
>> I have always felt that errors you noted DURING the contest (computer
>> notes
>> in the log, or paper notes on the side, or, to be most lenient, even
>> mental
>> notes) may be fixed after the contest; the notes are part of your record.
>> Otherwise, a typing error is no different from any other copying error.
>> We
>> are supposed to transcribe the incoming data (the audio, in my case -- CW
>> and SSB only) into the accepted form of READABLE information.  If the
>> other
>> op sent a "2", and my log has a "3", it does not matter whether I heard it
>> wrong or I typed it wrong -- it's incorrect.
>>
>> When I finish a contest, I generate the Cabrillo log and send it in.
>> Later, I look at the LCR/UBN to see what mistakes I made.  (I'm still
>> trying to figure out how I lost one SS Nebraska QSO by logging KV01
>> instead
>> of KV0I)
>>
>> (A free story:  In one SS CW several years ago, I lost a QSO -- and maybe
>> a
>> mult -- because I logged NR 61 instead of 149 (or something like that).
>> Weird.  I remembered asking him several times for a repeat: "NR?  NR?"
>> About three years later, looking at some other SS data, I saw that the
>> guy's CHECK was 61.  He kept sending me his CK instead of his NR, and I
>> logged what he sent.)
>>
>> So, is there a real consensus, or real advice from a Sponsor, or a real
>> rule that says it's OK to correct "obvious" typographical errors AFTER the
>> contest?
>>
>> 73, Art K3KU
>> (Who always has to review his typing for errors before clicking SEND)
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