[CQ-Contest] Dead horse #99

[Barry Jacobson]

Art, there is a new ARRL rule that if you book a ticket and fly to
Nebraska, it can count the same as working Nebraska. Plus you get to
go touring.

Barry WA2VIU
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Barry Jacobson
WA2VIU
bdj at alum.mit.edu
@bdj_phd

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 9:06 PM Art Boyars <artboyars at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the re-clarification, John.
>
> The case I'm describing is covered, if at all, only under "other methods".
> If, after the contest, I notice that I typed "KV01" am I prohibited from
> correcting it to "KV0I", using only the database in my head?  (There is no
> such call as KV01.  I know I worked KV0I -- I remember being happy that I
> had the Nebraska multiplier in the log.  I can even find the QSO in my log,
> with the NE Section.)
>
> "It's extremely rare that fixing a couple typo errors is going to make a
> meaningful difference in your result or final standing."
>
> That depends on how much I needed that Nebraska mult  :>)
>
>
> "Oddly, it seems easier to me to fix the problem while operating vs. taking
> the time to create a note. Maybe I'm missing something with that
> assumption?"
>
> You are missing two things: 1) You type a lot better than I do; 2) Some of
> us are slow/clumsy enough typists that it's faster to grab our every-handy
> pencil and jot a note on a piece of paper.  (And I'd allow mental notes, if
> you are honest about it.)  Again :>)
>
> 73, Art K3KU
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 3:16 PM John Dorr <cqk1ar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Art,
> >
> > Thanks for raising this issue. The CQ WW rules are pretty clear about this
> > topic:
> >
> > * Correction of logged call signs and exchanges after the contest, by use
> > of any database, recordings, email or other methods, is not allowed.*
> >
> > While I personally don't make changes from notes created DURING the
> > contest, I don't believe the rule suggests that specific practice as being
> > illegal. In sharp contrast, log cleansing against databases or recordings
> > after the contest is very unsportsmanlike and clearly against the rules.
> > Oddly, it seems easier to me to fix the problem while operating vs. taking
> > the time to create a note. Maybe I'm missing something with that assumption?
> >
> > In the end, however, my advice is to simply submit your log right after
> > the contest. It takes about 30 seconds for most people. It's extremely rare
> > that fixing a couple typo errors is going to make a meaningful difference
> > in your result or final standing. Questions about why you're taking "all
> > week" to submit is another matter and a contributor to one's negative
> > reputation. The choice is obvious in my mind.
> >
> > 73, John, K1AR
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 2:40 PM Art Boyars <artboyars at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I saw somewhere a discussion about how to rescore a log when fixing a typo
> >> error that was noticed AFTER the contest.
> >>
> >> I have always felt that errors you noted DURING the contest (computer
> >> notes
> >> in the log, or paper notes on the side, or, to be most lenient, even
> >> mental
> >> notes) may be fixed after the contest; the notes are part of your record.
> >> Otherwise, a typing error is no different from any other copying error.
> >> We
> >> are supposed to transcribe the incoming data (the audio, in my case -- CW
> >> and SSB only) into the accepted form of READABLE information.  If the
> >> other
> >> op sent a "2", and my log has a "3", it does not matter whether I heard it
> >> wrong or I typed it wrong -- it's incorrect.
> >>
> >> When I finish a contest, I generate the Cabrillo log and send it in.
> >> Later, I look at the LCR/UBN to see what mistakes I made.  (I'm still
> >> trying to figure out how I lost one SS Nebraska QSO by logging KV01
> >> instead
> >> of KV0I)
> >>
> >> (A free story:  In one SS CW several years ago, I lost a QSO -- and maybe
> >> a
> >> mult -- because I logged NR 61 instead of 149 (or something like that).
> >> Weird.  I remembered asking him several times for a repeat: "NR?  NR?"
> >> About three years later, looking at some other SS data, I saw that the
> >> guy's CHECK was 61.  He kept sending me his CK instead of his NR, and I
> >> logged what he sent.)
> >>
> >> So, is there a real consensus, or real advice from a Sponsor, or a real
> >> rule that says it's OK to correct "obvious" typographical errors AFTER the
> >> contest?
> >>
> >> 73, Art K3KU
> >> (Who always has to review his typing for errors before clicking SEND)
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