[CQ-Contest] Connected but not assisted

[kq2m at kq2m.com]

JP,

If you are going to quote me, then at least make a good-faith
attempt to get it right.

from my previous post:

"First, the ARRL, when whomever decided unilaterally to treat remote the
same as just using a keyer, they did so without ANY open discussion with 
the
contesting community. It was simply included DE FACTO.  No notice, no 
discussion, NOTHING that
I ever saw.

Had remote operating been openly discussed by the ARRL at that time, I
would have formally made my objection TO THE ARRL at that time to REMOTE 
NOT being in it's
own separate REMOTE category.

REMOTE would have it's own NON-Assisted and Assisted categories of
course."

Bob, KQ2M



On 2024-03-17 10:00, JP wrote:
> NOT according TO KQ2M. AND you KNOW he’s SERIOUS because he’s SAID SO.
> 
> I love all the passion over ham radio points.
> 
> J.P. W2XX
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2024, at 5:19 AM, Hal Offutt 
>> <hal at japancorporateresearch.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hold on, guys,
>> 
>> Please don't lump remote operating with assisted operating.  They are 
>> totally different animals.  Remote is simply a means to operate a 
>> station, whether it's in your basement or on the other side of the 
>> world.  It does not  confer any kind of advantage. Paul Bourque's 
>> description is perfect: remote is merely a long mic (key) cord.
>> 
>> 73, Hal W1NN
>> 
>> Remoting my station in Ohio from Tokyo since 2011  (and always 
>> unassisted)
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/17/2024 3:31 AM, Stewart G. Hoar wrote:
>>> Paul's "connected" suggestion offers an honest description of 
>>> contesters who choose to increase their fun by adding internet 
>>> support to traditional radio communications.  Some of us enjoy old 
>>> fashioned (pre-internet) contesting, many others enjoy the boost that 
>>> spotting networks, remote operation, and online scoreboards have 
>>> added to our hobby.
>>> 
>>> We don't need another category, but I think replacing "assisted" with 
>>> "connected" is a fine idea.
>>> 
>>> 73  Stu  N7ZZ
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+stuhoar=msn.com at contesting.com> 
>>> on behalf of Paul O'Kane <pokane at ei5di.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 6:59 AM
>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Assisted or Connected
>>> 
>>> It seems to me that the term "Assisted" is outdated, as it predates 
>>> the
>>> internet (remember packet cluster).  In any case, all relevant
>>> technology assists, leading to never-ending debate about what should, 
>>> or
>>> should not, be regarded as Assisted.
>>> 
>>> The term "Connnected" describes it better. When you connect to an
>>> external (to your station) network for the purpose of finding,
>>> facilitating, or making QSOs, you are Connected.  When you spot 
>>> others,
>>> you are Connected - because you are advertising your presence over 
>>> the
>>> internet.  Self-spotting is Connected.
>>> 
>>> Remote entrants are Connected because, by definition, they are 
>>> obliged
>>> to connect to an external network.
>>> 
>>> If you prefer to enter as Unconnected, then stay away from the 
>>> internet
>>> while contesting.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Paul EI5DI
>>> 
>>> ps - for completeness and consistency, the use of multi-channel CW
>>> decoders would continue to be regarded as "Connected".