[ct-user] CT DOS Users Check your Log times for WPX
R Johnson
k1vu at tmlp.com
Tue Mar 27 01:33:39 EST 2007
MAL:
First, I didn't call you any names, I just didn't agree that your solution was
acceptable for todays applications (or yesterdays) !!!
I don't know why you have a bone to pick with Hans, his opinion is valid.
I wonder just how you are going to "deal with K0HB in my own way". This doesn't
like a very "Ham Like" attitude to me !!!
I don't think that Ed and I had any intent of "solving all the problems in the world and creating world peace" !!! I was just trying to solve my first "Time Aberration" since
I started using CT with Ver 5.07 !!!
All my message was about was suggesting that CT DOS users simply check their "Log
Times" for correctness. We had a change in the dates for the EST/EDT this year just
in case you didn't know !!!
I'm trying to decide whether to send you a jug of Scotch or a tube of Preparation-H
to help get you back on track !!!
73
Bob, K1VU
P.S. I'm going to CC: you on my correspondence with Ed on this subject.
At 00:57 3/27/2007, N7MAL wrote:
>Hi Ed: (This is off the list.) You might want to back your bus back into the barn. I merely answered a problem with a simple question. I've been a registered CT user since 1987 and the standard 'easy' answer has been set your computer to GMT. It has been the answer at DX Clubs, DX conventions, etc. It has been and always will be the simplest solution.
>At any rate K1VU decided to call me names, a leaky fountain pen, and make a big production. All I did was explain my position more clearly. Then along comes K0HB with his moronic comments. Ed you are not aware of an ongoing unpleasant relationship between K0HB and me that has been going on for years. K1VU said ""There is absolutely no need "" yet K0HB gives me the ration of crap. ""I don't cotton much to "absolutes", MAL,"". I will deal with K0HB in my own way, again. later.
>You and K1VU may think you are solving all the problems in the world and creating world peace but I doubt it. I use my computer for many things other than contesting and DXing, including banking, stocks, etc, and have ""NEVER"" encountered any problem with my computer being on GMT and neither do 99.9% of all hams who have their computer clocks set to GMT.
>The bottom line is I made a simple suggestion that got blown all out of proportion. I don't care what time zone anyone wants their computer set to, I tried to be helpful.
>Thank you
>Best 73
>
>
>
>
>c.c. K1VU, K0HB
>
>
>MAL
>N7MAL
>BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
><http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm>http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:ct-user-owner at contesting.com>ct-user-owner (K1EP)
>To: <mailto:N7MAL at CITLINK.NET>N7MAL ; <mailto:CT-User at contesting.com>CT-User at contesting.com ; <mailto:k1vu at tmlp.com>R Johnson
>Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 23:34
>Subject: Re: [ct-user] CT DOS Users Check your Log times for WPX
>
>There are plenty of reasons for anyone to set their computer to whatever time zone they want. The purpose of the list is not to chastise a user, but to help with the problem. You haven't helped solve the problem, you have given a work around that might not suit the user.
>
>Bob, there is nothing special about the DST updates for your computer. What you most likely have, is a variable in one of your configuration files, such as autoexec.bat. There is a variable called TZ which stands for TimeZone. Check the value of the variable. You can do that in a dos prompt by typing SET. If you show a variable TZ, then it is being set in autoexec.bat or whatever batch file you might use to start up CT. If that isn't your problem, then there are other things you might want to look at, but this is most likely the problem.
>
>As far as using CT_TIME, typing CT_TIME in a dos shell will get you the command line prompt. Essentially it asks for the bin file name (make a copy first) and a time offset in minutes. It will then create a new bin file. Make sure you use the correct version for CT10.
>
>
>At 3/26/2007 02:51 AM, N7MAL wrote:
>>There is absolutely no reason not to set your computer to GMT. The
>>overwhelming majority of hams only need an accurate time stamp for 2
>>reasons, contests and master logbook. Both of which require GMT. Almost all
>>other ham radio activities like VHF, Satellite, LOTW, Eqsl, etc etc etc use
>>GMT. THEREFORE why not just set your computer to GMT and then you never have
>>to hyperventilate about your contest log not using the proper time ..??..
>>Very best 73
>>
>>MAL
>>N7MAL
>>BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
>>http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: R Johnson
>> To: <mailto:CT-User at contesting.com>CT-User at contesting.com ; N7MAL
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:21
>> Subject: Re: [ct-user] CT DOS Users Check your Log times for WPX
>>
>>
>> MAL:
>> There is absolutely no need to set your computer to GMT !!!
>> Message-Id: <<mailto:200703260224343.SM02524 at z0n6x8.tmlp.com>200703260224343.SM02524 at z0n6x8.tmlp.com>
>>
>> Setting your clock to GMT is like using "Rubber Gloves for Leaky Fountain
>>Pens"!!!
>>
>> Every program I have (20 year old DOS programs included) has provisions
>>for compensating
>> for the "TIME ZONE" offset including the shift from "Standard Time" to
>>"Daylight Savings Time"
>> where applicable !!!
>>
>> It appears that there is a problem how CT get it's time offset data after
>>using the "New DST
>> Patches" !!!
>>
>> CT WIN works correctly, CT DOS has a problem !!!
>>
>> Normally we used to use the Time Variable command "set tz=est5edt" to
>>correct for EST/EDT
>> change over. It doesn't work now !!!
>>
>> Somehow there is a problem as to how CT get it's info after patching !!!
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K1VU
>>
>>
>>
>> At 00:29 3/26/2007, N7MAL wrote:
>> >Why not set your computer to G.M.T. ..??..
>> >
>> >MAL
>> >N7MAL
>> >BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
>> ><<http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm>http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm>http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm>http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: <<mailto:k1vu at tmlp.com>R>mailto:k1vu at tmlp.com>R Johnson
>> >To: <<mailto:CT-User at contesting.com>CT-User at contesting.com>mailto:CT-User at contesting.com>CT-User at contesting.com
>> >Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 3:48
>> >Subject: [ct-user] CT DOS Users Check your Log times for WPX
>> >
>> >Hi:
>> >After using CT DOS V10 for the CQ WPX contest I found all of my times
>>were off by +1 Hour.
>> >
>> >ie: My first QSO was at 00:33Z, but was logged as 01:33Z.
>> >
>> >While had patched my computer for the new DST dates I'm still off by 1
>>hour.
>> >
>> >I checked CT WIN and it was logging the correct time, just a problem with
>>CT DOS.
>> >
>> >I will dig deeper on the problem !!!
>> >
>> >73
>> >Bob, K1VU
>> >
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