[Fourlanders] N1MM logging program

[Bill Pence]

It seemed like UI just reduced the UI info?


On Thu, Feb 1, 2018, 4:23 PM John Kludt <johnnykludt at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Good thought - kind of like flying blind but better than not flying at all
>
> Johnny
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Pence
> Sent: Feb 1, 2018 10:21 AM
> To: John Kludt
> Cc: Jim Worsham , Fourlanders
> Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] N1MM logging program
>
> I was thinking we shut down the display animation s as suggested
> previously.
> We can reduce the non processing components and give the decide more
> oomph.
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018, 10:09 AM John Kludt <johnnykludt at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> One of the advantages of N1MM is its integration with WSJT-X and JTAlerts
>> for FT8 and MSK144.  We know we can run FT8 on our current machines.  But
>> we also know that MSK144 is a problem.  Althought it does not happen all of
>> the time, if there are lots of pings MSK144 real-time decoding overrruns
>> the processor and the program basically stops until it chaches up with
>> itself.
>>
>> So, question, how to handle MSK144?  We could:
>>
>>    1. Just live with it but use the automatic logging feature
>>    2. Run MSK144 on a separate machine and log manually to N1MM
>>    3. See if we can run MSK144 on one machine and logging on the current
>>    computer and get them to talk to each other over the network - kind of
>>    doubt it
>>    4. Other ideas?
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Worsham
>> Sent: Jan 31, 2018 10:53 PM
>> To: Bill Pence
>> Cc: Fourlanders
>> Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] N1MM logging program
>>
>> Yes it does create value.  That is basically what I was talking about
>> when I said “exercise the hell out of it”.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Jim, W4KXY
>>
>>
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>> *From: *Bill Pence <pence.bill at gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:37 PM
>> *To: *Jim Worsham <w4kxy at bellsouth.net>
>> *Cc: *Bob Lear <w4zst at windstream.net>; Fourlanders
>> <fourlanders at contesting.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Fourlanders] N1MM logging program
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok. So how about we pick a Saturday or Sunday and create our own as a dry
>> run. We could fake qsos if needed to test. Make some 6m, 2m and maybe 432,
>> and fake some 220
>>
>>
>>
>> Does that add value?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 8:30 PM Jim Worsham <w4kxy at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately no.  VHF contests here are few in number.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Jim, W4KXY
>>
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>> *From: *Bill Pence <pence.bill at gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:07 PM
>> *To: *Jim Worsham <w4kxy at bellsouth.net>
>> *Cc: *Bob Lear <w4zst at windstream.net>; Fourlanders
>> <fourlanders at contesting.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Fourlanders] N1MM logging program
>>
>>
>>
>> Are there some small contests we can try on some weekends before the June
>> qso party?
>>
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>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 7:20 PM Jim Worsham <w4kxy at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> I am fine with that plan with the condition that we get everything up and
>> running before the June contest with enough time to exercise the hell out
>> of it just like we did with the new PCs.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Jim, W4KXY
>>
>>
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>> *From: *Bob Lear <w4zst at windstream.net>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:47 PM
>> *To: *FourLanders Contest Team <fourlanders at contesting.com>
>> *Subject: *[Fourlanders] N1MM logging program
>>
>>
>>
>> I mentioned in the contest update that we discussed changing over to
>>
>> N1MM from WriteLog again at our meeting on the contest Sunday afternoon.
>>
>>
>>
>> We had agreed that it was time to try it and our first strategy would be
>>
>> for Johnny (who has some experience with N1MM) and Kos would learn it
>>
>> and report to the rest of us.  The plan is that they would also
>>
>> implement it as a first test with a simpler than usual set-up, by doing
>>
>> the 6 and 2 only for the CQWW VHF contest in July. The plans are to do
>>
>> that contest portable in a new location if possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yesterday, Johnny and I spent a couple of hours here in my shack where
>>
>> two of the contest stations are still set up and four of the contest
>>
>> computers are still here.  We upgraded N1MM on each of the contest
>>
>> computers to the latest release and started out with connecting the
>>
>> radios on the 6m and 222 stations that are set-up.  I also threw one of
>>
>> my radios on the 2m computer with a CAT cable.  We pretty quickly had
>>
>> the three computers networking, seeing each other, able to gab, log and
>>
>> all see bogus Q's that we were inputting and the 222 station connected
>>
>> with CW and PTT, sending CW messages and properly doing PTT.  We didn't
>>
>> get to messing with the audio setup yet.  We got most of the 6m station
>>
>> working also with some PTT problems to still iron out.  Apparently there
>>
>> are some idiosyncrasies with the FT-2000 we were using yesterday but I
>>
>> feel sure we can work them out.  The 2m radio was just doing CAT,
>>
>> connected to the computer and showing up on the network.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to propose that we go ahead and reconsider implementing
>>
>> N1MM for the June contest.  I had never seen it before yesterday and we
>>
>> got so much going so quickly, I was pretty impressed.  I certainly don't
>>
>> think it could be any more problematic than what we've been experiencing
>>
>> with WriteLog.  One thing we've always said was that we didn't want to
>>
>> do a new implementation first on a portable trip so since we've already
>>
>> decided to stay here for the June contest, I think it's something we
>>
>> should think about seriously.
>>
>>
>>
>> All that said, I'm not in charge anymore and no one ever listens to my
>>
>> suggestions anyway, but here it is for your consideration. Johnny and I
>>
>> are going to keep working with this when we have time. I have full
>>
>> confidence that we won't have any real problems making all the radios
>>
>> work with N1MM, audio channels, CW and PTT functions.  With the progress
>>
>> we made yesterday in such a short time, I was impressed with N1MM.  The
>>
>> operator learning curve will be quite easy as contest operation (and
>>
>> even some of the keyboard shortcuts) are so much like WL.
>>
>>
>>
>> Think about it, download free N1MM logger and give it a try on your
>>
>> own.  After some more of you have looked it over, we can decide whether
>>
>> to change our plans on logging for the next contest.  We do have plenty
>>
>> of time if we get started now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
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