[Fourlanders] N1MM logging program

Thu Feb 1 23:28:50 EST 2018

I am not sure that you are even flying blind.  Yeah, it is cool seeing the MS pings and all but in the end it is what gets decoded that counts.  I am not sure that turning the signal display off is an issue and it certainly reduces the load on the processor.  Lets try it and see.

73
Jim, W4KXY

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From: Bill Pence
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 4:56 PM
To: John Kludt
Cc: Jim Worsham; Fourlanders
Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] N1MM logging program

It seemed like UI just reduced the UI info?

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018, 4:23 PM John Kludt <johnnykludt at earthlink.net> wrote:
Bill,

Good thought - kind of like flying blind but better than not flying at all 

Johnny
-----Original Message----- 
From: Bill Pence 
Sent: Feb 1, 2018 10:21 AM 
To: John Kludt 
Cc: Jim Worsham , Fourlanders 
Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] N1MM logging program 
I was thinking we shut down the display animation s as suggested previously.
We can reduce the non processing components and give the decide more oomph. 

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018, 10:09 AM John Kludt <johnnykludt at earthlink.net> wrote:
All,

One of the advantages of N1MM is its integration with WSJT-X and JTAlerts for FT8 and MSK144.  We know we can run FT8 on our current machines.  But we also know that MSK144 is a problem.  Althought it does not happen all of the time, if there are lots of pings MSK144 real-time decoding overrruns the processor and the program basically stops until it chaches up with itself.

So, question, how to handle MSK144?  We could:
1. Just live with it but use the automatic logging feature
2. Run MSK144 on a separate machine and log manually to N1MM
3. See if we can run MSK144 on one machine and logging on the current computer and get them to talk to each other over the network - kind of doubt it
4. Other ideas?
Johnny

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Worsham 
Sent: Jan 31, 2018 10:53 PM 
To: Bill Pence 
Cc: Fourlanders 
Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] N1MM logging program 
Yes it does create value.  That is basically what I was talking about when I said “exercise the hell out of it”.

73
Jim, W4KXY

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From: Bill Pence
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:37 PM
To: Jim Worsham
Cc: Bob Lear; Fourlanders
Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] N1MM logging program

Ok. So how about we pick a Saturday or Sunday and create our own as a dry run. We could fake qsos if needed to test. Make some 6m, 2m and maybe 432, and fake some 220

Does that add value?

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 8:30 PM Jim Worsham <w4kxy at bellsouth.net> wrote:
Unfortunately no.  VHF contests here are few in number.

73
Jim, W4KXY

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From: Bill Pence
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:07 PM
To: Jim Worsham
Cc: Bob Lear; Fourlanders
Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] N1MM logging program

Are there some small contests we can try on some weekends before the June qso party?

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 7:20 PM Jim Worsham <w4kxy at bellsouth.net> wrote:
I am fine with that plan with the condition that we get everything up and running before the June contest with enough time to exercise the hell out of it just like we did with the new PCs.

73
Jim, W4KXY

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From: Bob Lear
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:47 PM
To: FourLanders Contest Team
Subject: [Fourlanders] N1MM logging program

I mentioned in the contest update that we discussed changing over to 
N1MM from WriteLog again at our meeting on the contest Sunday afternoon.

We had agreed that it was time to try it and our first strategy would be 
for Johnny (who has some experience with N1MM) and Kos would learn it 
and report to the rest of us.  The plan is that they would also 
implement it as a first test with a simpler than usual set-up, by doing 
the 6 and 2 only for the CQWW VHF contest in July. The plans are to do 
that contest portable in a new location if possible.

Yesterday, Johnny and I spent a couple of hours here in my shack where 
two of the contest stations are still set up and four of the contest 
computers are still here.  We upgraded N1MM on each of the contest 
computers to the latest release and started out with connecting the 
radios on the 6m and 222 stations that are set-up.  I also threw one of 
my radios on the 2m computer with a CAT cable.  We pretty quickly had 
the three computers networking, seeing each other, able to gab, log and 
all see bogus Q's that we were inputting and the 222 station connected 
with CW and PTT, sending CW messages and properly doing PTT.  We didn't 
get to messing with the audio setup yet.  We got most of the 6m station 
working also with some PTT problems to still iron out.  Apparently there 
are some idiosyncrasies with the FT-2000 we were using yesterday but I 
feel sure we can work them out.  The 2m radio was just doing CAT, 
connected to the computer and showing up on the network.

I would like to propose that we go ahead and reconsider implementing 
N1MM for the June contest.  I had never seen it before yesterday and we 
got so much going so quickly, I was pretty impressed.  I certainly don't 
think it could be any more problematic than what we've been experiencing 
with WriteLog.  One thing we've always said was that we didn't want to 
do a new implementation first on a portable trip so since we've already 
decided to stay here for the June contest, I think it's something we 
should think about seriously.

All that said, I'm not in charge anymore and no one ever listens to my 
suggestions anyway, but here it is for your consideration. Johnny and I 
are going to keep working with this when we have time. I have full 
confidence that we won't have any real problems making all the radios 
work with N1MM, audio channels, CW and PTT functions.  With the progress 
we made yesterday in such a short time, I was impressed with N1MM.  The 
operator learning curve will be quite easy as contest operation (and 
even some of the keyboard shortcuts) are so much like WL.

Think about it, download free N1MM logger and give it a try on your 
own.  After some more of you have looked it over, we can decide whether 
to change our plans on logging for the next contest.  We do have plenty 
of time if we get started now.

Bob
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