[Fourlanders] Fwd: Fwd: K6EID FT8 issues
Bill Pence
pence.bill at gmail.com
Wed Jan 13 18:53:09 EST 2021
Man,
I thought I was the only perfect op on the air!
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 4:05 PM Bob Lear <w4zst at windstream.net> wrote:
> Here is a real AH to look out for. I think I'll send him an email and ask
> him to put me on the list for calling him an ASS HOLE but I'll go out of my
> way to NOT work him. I'd always wondered who owned the bands and now we
> know. Bob
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> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Fwd: K6EID FT8 issues
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:19:16 -0500
> From: Buck Cheves <kc4gck at windstream.net> <kc4gck at windstream.net>
> To: Bob Lear <w4zst at windstream.net> <w4zst at windstream.net>
>
> Bob --
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> Looks like I made a 'naughty' list. Have you ever heard of this guy --
> Phil, K6EID?
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> Buck
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> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: K6EID FT8 issues
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 02:29:23 +0000
> From: Todd Geist <Todd.Geist at outlook.com> <Todd.Geist at outlook.com>
> To: n4hyk1937 at gmail.com <n4hyk1937 at gmail.com> <n4hyk1937 at gmail.com>,
> Stan at laseritup.com <Stan at laseritup.com> <Stan at laseritup.com>,
> k9ts.ham at gmail.com <k9ts.ham at gmail.com> <k9ts.ham at gmail.com>,
> IZ0FUW at HOTMAIL.COM <IZ0FUW at HOTMAIL.COM> <IZ0FUW at HOTMAIL.COM>,
> kg0mi at yahoo.com <kg0mi at yahoo.com> <kg0mi at yahoo.com>, n4ldfusa at gmail.com
> <n4ldfusa at gmail.com> <n4ldfusa at gmail.com>, wb2rem at verizon.net
> <wb2rem at verizon.net> <wb2rem at verizon.net>, WA6WGS at gmail.com
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> wa9thi at gmail.com <wa9thi at gmail.com> <wa9thi at gmail.com>, woody369 at gmail.com
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> <Stan at laseritup.com>, k9ts.ham at gmail.com <k9ts.ham at gmail.com>
> <k9ts.ham at gmail.com>, IZ0FUW at HOTMAIL.COM <IZ0FUW at HOTMAIL.COM>
> <IZ0FUW at HOTMAIL.COM>, kg0mi at yahoo.com <kg0mi at yahoo.com> <kg0mi at yahoo.com>,
> n4ldfusa at gmail.com <n4ldfusa at gmail.com> <n4ldfusa at gmail.com>,
> wb2rem at verizon.net <wb2rem at verizon.net> <wb2rem at verizon.net>,
> WA6WGS at gmail.com <WA6WGS at gmail.com> <WA6WGS at gmail.com>, ke3gp1 at gmail.com
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> hrhkenneth at gmail.com <hrhkenneth at gmail.com> <hrhkenneth at gmail.com>,
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> wa9thi at gmail.com <wa9thi at gmail.com> <wa9thi at gmail.com>, woody369 at gmail.com
> <woody369 at gmail.com> <woody369 at gmail.com>, W1RPQ at ARRL.net <W1RPQ at ARRL.net>
> <W1RPQ at ARRL.net>, K0JDk0jd at seboldt.net <K0JDk0jd at seboldt.net>
> <K0JDk0jd at seboldt.net>
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> Below is the web site that is an offense http://lota.online/
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> LOTA
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> *L**OTA*
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> *LIDS ON THE AIR*
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> *Founded in 2017, to remind potential LOTA members that crappy operating
> will reward you with a dishonorary membership in this not-elite group. The
> character of the club members is best expressed in its motto:*
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> *"Crappy operators have a real bad case of the stupids" - Anonymous (2013)*
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> *LID is a very old amateur radio designation for a crappy operator that
> allegedly stood for LICENSE IN DOUBT. *
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> *This website is established to try to improve the operating skills and
> etiquette of amateur radio operators by shaming the incompetents. *
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> *In recent years too many irresponsible and marginally qualified people
> have been able to obtain US amateur radio licenses for a number of factors
> including:*
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> *1. Dumbing down of licensing requirements*
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> *2. The current trend of the "gimme generation" where others' desires are
> ignored if they conflict with their personal wants*
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> *LOTA NON-HONOREES AIM TO….*
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> 1. Foster and practice a low standard of operating ability and
> behaviour on the amateur bands.
> 2. Be inconsiderate to other amateurs at all times.
> 3. Be a real demonstrator of the selfish *ME* generation - it does not
> matter what other operators desire, they must abandon their preferences and
> honor only *MINE*
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> *BECOMING A NON-HONOREE*
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> If you have a genuine love of irritating other amateur operators, and
> enjoy socialising with others of like interest then LOTA is just right for
> you. It takes some work to join - it’s not simply a matter of filling in a
> form and sending off a check. Membership is free!
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> First, someone must nominate you - based on their experience of you having
> demonstrated a real lack of understanding of amateur radio principles and
> traditions along with your sponsor’s belief that you will live up to the
> aims of the organization that are listed above. You cannot request
> enrollment, it is only earned by your demonstrated lack of operating
> etiquette.
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> Once you have been nominated, you are automatically added to the
> organization membership. You cannot refuse the nomination as you have
> earned it as acknowledged by experienced and traditional amateur radio
> operators who observed and commented on your poor behavior
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> *DISHONOR ROLL OF LIDS ON THE AIR*
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> *N4HYK *
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> *W8ATE *
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> *K9TS *
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> *IZ0FUW *
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> *KG0MI*
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> *KK6NON*
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> *N4LDF*
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> *WB2REM *
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> *KJ4TID *
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> *NT2A *
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> ... . *N0JJK *
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> *KC4GCK *
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> *AC4VM *
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> *KB8MCW*
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> *W1DWF*
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> *N8OA*
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> *WA9THI *
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> *WW1WW *
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> *K1RMN *
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> *NW9S *
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> * K0JD *
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> * KC3IRG *
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> *A major symptom of this is the failure of common sense operating
> etiquette. As an old time operator (licensed 60 years with the Amateur
> Extra Class license earned at the FCC office before the VECs were
> authorized), I like to work DX and usually call CQDX. Way too many times, a
> US domestic station will respond. True that an inattentive operator might
> miss the DX part of the call. In those cases I usually send QRZ DX NO USA
> or QSY UR NOT DX. For most, but unfortunately not all, this solves the
> problem. *
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> - *An example of this lack of common sense is from 17 meters FT8 which
> qualifies this LID for membership:*
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> *151800 Tx 1832 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 151815 0 0.5 1832 ~
> K6EID N4HYK EL87 151831 Tx 1832 ~ QSY UR NO DX
> 151845 2 1.0 1832 ~ K6EID N4HYK EL87 151900 Tx 1832 ~
> QSY UR NO DX 151915 1 1.0 1832 ~ K6EID N4HYK EL87
> 151930 Tx 1832 ~ R U STUPID? 151945 -15 0.9 1833 ~ K6EID
> N4HYK EL87 152000 Tx 1832 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 152030
> Tx 1832 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 *
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> *Right after this I got this email from that ham:*
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> - *The caller claims to be a licensee for over fifty years! *
> - *Therefore I hereby nominate said Dock as the first "non-honoree" in
> this un-esteemed group of LOTA. *
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> - *The next one, another example of crappy operating again on 17
> meters is W8ATE (don't worry he's got a vanity call from an N8 so not
> really an OT):*
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> *162545 Tx 1395 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 162530 -20 0.8 1143 ~ K6EID F6DHI
> JN23 162545 Tx 1143 ~ F6DHI K6EID -20 162600 6 0.6 1143 ~ K6EID W8ATE
> EN81 162615 Tx 1143 ~ F6DHI K6EID -20 162630 14 0.6 1143 ~ K6EID W8ATE
> EN81 162645 Tx 1143 ~ F6DHI K6EID -20 162700 14 0.6 1143 ~ K6EID W8ATE
> EN81 162715 Tx 1143 ~ F6DHI K6EID -20 162730 -18 0.3 1143 ~ K6EID F6DHI
> R-08 162745 Tx 1143 ~ F6DHI K6EID RRR 162800 -17 0.3 1143 ~ K6EID F6DHI
> 73 *
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> - *And another example of crappy operating again on 17 meters is K9TS*
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> *152430 Tx 2137 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 152445 -17 0.6 2138 ~ K6EID K9TS EM49
> 152512 Tx 2137 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 152530 Tx 2137 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 152545 -15
> 0.6 2138 ~ K6EID K9TS EM49 152600 Tx 2137 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 152615 -15 0.6
> 2138 ~ K6EID K9TS EM49 152631 Tx 2137 ~ R U STUPID? 152700 Tx 2137 ~ CQ
> DX K6EID EM73 152715 -9 0.7 2138 ~ ASS HAT *
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> - *And lo and behold our first international non-honoree, from of all
> places Italy. This fellow earned a double poop awards for persistently
> QRMing two QSOs*
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> *200145 Tx 1121 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 200200 -22 1.1 1121 ~ K6EID DK2LO
> JO43 200215 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22 200230 -3 1.0 1122 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW
> JN63 200245 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22 200315 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22
> 200330 -10 1.0 1123 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63 200345 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22
> 200400 -9 1.0 1122 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63 200415 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22
> 200445 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22 200515 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22 200530
> -24 0.5 1121 ~ K6EID DK2LO R-11 200545 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID 73 200615 Tx
> 1121 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 200600 -24 0.5 1121 ~ K6EID DK2LO 73 200645 Tx
> 1121 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 201315 Tx 593 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 201330 -17 1.1
> 594 ~ K6EID SV6EBQ KM09 201345 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID -17 201400 -4 0.6
> 595 ~ K6EID EA3EW JN01 201415 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID -17 201430 -11 1.0
> 594 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63 201445 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID -17 201500 -9 1.0
> 594 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63 201515 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID -17 201530 -11 1.0
> 594 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63 201545 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID -17 201530 -18 0.6
> 594 ~ K6EID SV6EBQ R-14 201545 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID RRR 201615 Tx 594 ~
> SV6EBQ K6EID RRR 201630 -9 1.2 594 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63 201645 Tx 594 ~
> SV6EBQ K6EID 73 *
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> - *And another 17M, this one deserves a poop and a half for his
> persistence and verifying that he was stupid*
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> *144230 Tx 1533 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 144215 2 0.4 1504 ~ K6EID KG0MI EM46
> 144300 Tx 1504 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 144315 11 0.4 1504 ~ K6EID KG0MI EM46
> 144330 Tx 1504 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 144345 6 0.4 1504 ~ K6EID KG0MI EM46
> 144400 Tx 1504 ~ R U STUPID? 144430 Tx 1504 ~ R U STUPID? 144445 2 0.5
> 1503 ~ K6EID KG0MI EM46 144500 Tx 1503 ~ R U STUPID? 144515 1 0.4 1504 ~
> K6EID KG0MI EM46 144530 Tx 1504 ~ R U STUPID? *
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> - *And now a three poop one, KK6NON. This guy has to be either blind
> or as stupid as a box of rocks!*
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> *171006_163500 Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8: CQ DX K6EID EM73 163515 -5
> -0.2 1048 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13 171006_163530 Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8:
> QRZ DX NO USA 163545 -7 -0.2 1048 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13 171006_163600
> Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8: QRZ DX NO USA 163615 -3 -0.2 1048 ~ K6EID
> KK6NON DM13 171006_163630 Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8: R U STUPID? 163645
> -7 -0.2 1047 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13 171006_163700 Transmitting 21.074 MHz
> FT8: R U STUPID? 163715 -4 -0.2 1047 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13 171006_163730
> Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8: CQ DX K6EID EM73 171006_163800 Transmitting
> 21.074 MHz FT8: CQ DX K6EID EM73 163815 -17 -0.2 1047 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13
> 163845 -7 -0.2 1047 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13 *
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> - *Wow, thought there must be a full moon but there wasn't so it must
> not be lunatics but only just a few dumb as boxes of rocks on the last few
> days. To start off, another new one, a triple pooper again, N4LDF (at least
> he confirmed he was stupid with RRR). As such I think I found a picture of
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> *141300 Tx 654 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 141315 -3 1.1 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF EL95
> 141338 Tx 655 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 141345 -1 0.5 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF EL95
> 141437 Tx 655 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 141445 -1 1.0 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF R-12 141500
> Tx 655 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 141515 -7 0.5 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF R-12 141530 Tx 655
> ~ QRZ DX NO USA 141545 -3 0.5 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR 141600 Tx 655 ~ R U
> STUPID? 141615 -3 0.5 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR 141630 Tx 655 ~ R U STUPID?
> 141645 3 0.5 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR 141700 Tx 655 ~ R U STUPID? 141715 5
> 1.0 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR 141732 Tx 655 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 141800 Tx 655 ~
> CQ DX K6EID EM73 141815 4 0.5 656 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR 141837 Tx 656 ~ CQ DX
> K6EID EM73 141845 -1 1.0 656 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR *
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> - *The same day, another one, this time WB2REM , an old timer who
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> *181215 Tx 1498 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 181230 -8 0.3 1498 ~ K6EID WB2REM
> EL97 181251 Tx 1498 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 181300 -10 0.3 1498 ~ K6EID WB2REM
> EL97 181315 Tx 1498 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 181330 -8 0.3 1498 ~ K6EID WB2REM
> EL97 181345 Tx 1498 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 181400 -8 0.3 1498 ~ K6EID WB2REM
> EL97 181415 Tx 1498 ~ R U STUPID? 181430 -9 0.3 1499 ~ K6EID WB2REM EL97 *
> *181445 Tx 1499 ~ R U STUPID?*
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> *182615 Tx 1500 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 182600 1 0.5 1500 ~ K6EID KC3HMA FM28
> 182619 Tx 1500 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 182630 2 0.5 1500 ~ K6EID KC3HMA FM28
> 182645 Tx 1500 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 182700 4 0.5 1500 ~ K6EID KC3HMA FM28
> 182715 Tx 1500 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 182745 Tx 1500 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 182815
> Tx 1500 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 182830 4 0.5 1500 ~ K6EID KC3HMA FM28 182847
> Tx 1500 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 182900 -5 0.5 1500 ~ K6EID KC3HMA FM28 182916 Tx
> 1500 ~ R U STUPID?*
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> - *That was it for that day, so next day, another real old timer (55
> years as a ham) makes the triple scooper, er pooper, rating, WA6WGS:*
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> *155830 Tx 1132 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 155845 -24 0.3 1132 ~ K6EID WA6WGS
> DM03 155905 Tx 1132 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 155915 6 0.3 1132 ~ K6EID WA6WGS
> DM03 155930 Tx 1132 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 155945 5 0.3 1132 ~ K6EID WA6WGS
> DM03 160000 Tx 1132 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 160015 5 0.3 1132 ~ K6EID WA6WGS
> DM03 160030 Tx 1132 ~ R U STUPID? 160045 2 0.3 1131 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
> 160100 Tx 1132 ~ R U STUPID? 160115 -3 0.3 1131 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
> 160130 Tx 1132 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 160145 -11 0.3 1131 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
> 160215 -15 0.3 1131 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03 160237 Tx 1132 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
> 160245 -18 0.3 1131 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03 *
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> - *Well a new day and another dishonoree, KE3GP:*
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> *145415 Tx 1782 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73 145430 3 -0.0 1783 ~ K6EID KE3GP FM19
> 145451 Tx 1783 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 145500 3 0.0 1782 ~ K6EID KE3GP FM19
> 145515 Tx 1782 ~ QRZ DX NO USA 145530 6 0.1 1782 ~ K6EID KE3GP FM19
> 145546 Tx 1782 ~ QSY USA NOTDX 145600 3 -0.1 1782 ~ K6EID KE3GP FM19
> 145615 Tx 1782 ~ R U STUPID? *
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