[Mldxcc] Center?

Tue Oct 6 17:35:35 PDT 2009

Shirl, gotta read the rules.  They require ARRL club rules.  CQ does not 
apply to CQP.  From the CQP rules (http://www.cqp.org/Rules.html):

    Club members can submit their logs for the club competition by
    entering the club name in the Cabrillo file 'club' field. _A Club is
    defined by the ARRL competition rules._  NCCC, SCCC, NCDXC, and
    SCDXC are not eligible in the club competition.

 From ARRL club rules:  
http://www.arrl.org/contests/announcements/rules-all.html

    8.3.2. The entry must clearly indicate the club name in the Cabrillo
    file header.

    8.3.3. To be eligible to submit a score in the Affiliated Club
    Competition, _operators must be members in good standing of the club
    designated, and reside and operate in the club territory as provided
    in 8.4.1, 8.4.2, and 8.4.3._ The Club Secretary or designated Club
    Scorekeeper for an affiliated _club must submit a list of all club
    members eligible to compete_ for the club (not a club roster) and
    which level (unlimited, medium, local) they wish to enter for each
    competition _within 30 days after the contest._

        8.4.1.3. (= 8.4.2.3.) The club territory is either defined by:

            8.4.1.3.1. A 175-mile (282-kilometer) circle from a
            designated center; or
            8.4.1.3.2. One ARRL section.

8.5. At Single Guest-Operator and Multioperator stations:

    8.5.1. To claim a Guest Operator score for a club, _the guest
    operator at a single-operator station must meet the membership and
    residence requirement _for the club classification (Unlimited,
    Medium or Local see rule 8.4) _and the station must be located
    within the defined club territory_. The owner of the station does
    not need to be a member of the club claiming the score.

    8.5.2. _At least 50% of the operators at a multi-operator station
    must be eligible members of the club and the station must be located
    within the defined club territory._ The owner of the station does
    not need to be a member of the club claiming the score. A club
    member who resides outside of the club territory counts as a
    non-member when determining the number of eligible members at a
    multi-operator station.

    8.5.3. Multioperator entries may (optional) utilize non-member
    operators licensed one year or less without including such operators
    in the 50% calculation. (The intent here is to encourage clubs to
    recruit contesters from newer amateurs without adversely affecting
    the club aggregate score.)

    8.5.4. All other applicable contest rules must be satisfied.

Rich
NU6T

SHIRLEY ROSE wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>   For CQ contests there is great latitude as Clubs are not categorized 
> by size. The Mother Lode DX/Contest Club is listed as region W6 which 
> is the entire state.  The center and mileage constriction is 
> applicable only to ARRL contests which by definition require us to be 
> classified as a Medium Club. I am unaware of the ARRL criteria for 
> Club competition being applicable to the CQP.
>  
> 73 de AA6K
> Shirl
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 10/6/09, Richard Hill /<rehill at ix.netcom.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Richard Hill <rehill at ix.netcom.com>
>     Subject: Re: Center?
>     To: k6lrn at arrl.net
>     Cc: "Shirley Rose" <rosesl at prodigy.net>
>     Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 1:11 PM
>
>     Hi Dick, we should be asking Shirley I suppose, as Contest VP. 
>     The key to the center is whether we include Bay Area ops or Nevada
>     ops, and Paradise.  I may be missing key players, let me know.
>
>     I thought the center was Pine Grove, but based on the map I
>     produced and put in the Nugget in May, I'd guess the center should
>     be closer to Sheldon, Wilton and Sloughhouse, or Cameron Park and
>     US 50.  The problem is that we have members in the Bay area and
>     near Reno/Sparks.  These are beyond the 175 miles straight line
>     between them (about 186 miles).  We have to make a decision
>     whether to keep the bay area ops or the Nevada ops.
>
>     North-south is Paradise to Twain Heart, and the long one is
>     Paradise.  Linking Paradise and Sunnyvale/Redwood City puts the
>     center near Grant Line Road and Eagles Nest Road, but we need an
>     accurate map to verify the distances since it will be tight.  Both
>     of the suggested centers will easily include Twain Heart.
>
>     To include K5RC means the center needs to be up around Cameron
>     Park and US 50.  We have to make a choice.  One consideration
>     might be where the biggest scores come from (do we get many logs
>     from Nevada, and who else am I missing?).  Another might be to
>     include the Nevada side as Mother Lode, and let REDXA take over
>     the Bay Area ops.  I don't like either choice.  Better Ideas?
>
>     I don't see any club size factor in the CQP.  They refer to "the"
>     club competition, and the REDXA plaque does not distinguish club
>     size.  However, I suspect we are both medium clubs with more than
>     10 logs or more than a 35 mile radius, and less than 51 logs.  I
>     suspect both span two or more sections and so have to go with the
>     175 mile radius.
>
>     We do need to send in a club roster within 30 days of the contest,
>     and should put it up on the web page after it is sent to NCCC.  We
>     also need to verify that we don't have non-club single ops and
>     that multi op operations have 50% or more club members.
>
>     Rich
>     NU6T
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     >From: Dick Wilson <k6lrn at gotsky.com
>     <http://us.mc830.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=k6lrn@gotsky.com>>
>     >Sent: Oct 6, 2009 8:44 AM
>     >To: REHill at ix.netcom.com
>     <http://us.mc830.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=REHill@ix.netcom.com>
>     >Subject: Center?
>     >
>     >I suspect REDXA will be having something to say about club
>     competition
>     >again this year challenging our membership, etc.
>     >Do we have a 'center' of our area?
>     >I am also asking question of Ken as one of the older members of
>     >the club still participating. We 'have' to participate as a 'medium'
>     >size club
>     >due to the area our membership is spread. 'Local' clubs have a 35
>     mile
>     >radius
>     >which eliminates us from that class.
>     >CQP rules say club competition based on ARRL rules which say
>     members in
>     >good standing, in club area, etc. All in article 8 of general rules.
>     >
>     >As of this AM, MLDXCC has almost 2.8 M points to REDXA's
>     >approx 955K. REDXA still has scores coming from W6XU...probably 300 K
>     >and N6YEU...around 150 K or so. That will put them close to 1.3 M.
>     >
>     >
>     >73,
>     >
>     >Dick
>