[Mldxcc] [NCCC] questionable influencing of CQP results

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Or you could use my criteria for choosing  a "favorite " second club  to 
throw your points to.  I have been to both MLDXCC and REDXA meetings and  I 
say  go with the club that serves the best food at their meetings..   How's 
that  for a different decision making process, HI HI
 
Tom
N6AJR


In a message dated 9/30/2009 6:43:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
rosesl at prodigy.net writes:

I concur  with Alan's comment!!!

73 de AA6K
Shirley Rose
VP &  Contest Chair
MLDXCC

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, alan eshleman  <oakame at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: alan eshleman  <oakame at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NCCC] questionable influencing of  CQP results
To: "Kevin Rowett" <kevin at rowett.org>
Cc:  nccc at contesting.com
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 3:33  PM


Kevin,

My point is simple.  Regardless of past  experiences, it is inappropriate 
to suggest to all our members in an official  NCCC newsletter that they 
pledge their scores *only* to MLDXCC, which is what  the current JUG says.
That not only doesn't foster competition, it also  serves to diminish it.

It's especially hurtful this year when REDXA's  own N6YEU has been going 
out of his way to fan the flames of competition among  REDXA members and we 
anticipate our best ever score.  

The only  fair statement would be to say "pledge your scores to your club 
of choice"  Period.

73, Alan

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Kevin Rowett  <kevin at rowett.org> wrote:

> From: Kevin Rowett  <kevin at rowett.org>
> Subject: Re: [NCCC] questionable influencing  of CQP results
> To: "alan eshleman" <oakame at yahoo.com>
>  Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 12:32 PM
> alan eshleman  wrote:
> > The latest JUG (nice job, BTW) includes the  statement
> that we should
> > pledge our CQP scores to the  MLDXCC since, among other
> things, MLDXCC
> > has always  "supported" NCCC.
> > 
> > Well, BFD: REDXA, of which I am  currently president,
> has always
> > supported NCCC, includes  a lot of NCCC members, hosts
> an annual joint
> 
> Hi  Alan,
> 
> As past CQP manager, I tried hard to make sure there  wasn't
> a bias within CQP for MLDCC over REDXA.  Often  times,
> someone would ask that
> CQP promote MLDXCC in some  way.  I feel I was
> successful in holding that
> ground "on  my watch".
> 
> W6ZZZ and I even once brought the CQP song and  dance to a
> REDXA club
> meeting.
> 
> So, I  sympathize with your comments.
> 
> I also searched for a way to  make this more
> equitable.  Getting more
> CA ops on the air  is good for CQP. Having one club run away
> with the
> plaque  every year didn't help other clubs rally the
> troops.
> 
>  I even got then prez K6LRN to scrub the list of claimants
> for  MLDXCC
> in CQP submittals to those that we're currently dues  paying
> members,
> etc.  That did drop out many  logs.
> 
> However, that said - as a member of both NCCC and  MLDXCC,
> and a once
> member of REDXA, I just didn't see the  competitive spirit
> in REDXA to
> get on the air.
>  
> It would be useful to make that spirit grow in REDXA, as
>  having two
> clubs compete for the plaque without one getting the  lions
> share
> of the highly competitive entrants is good for  all.
> 
> I did suggest to the then leadership in REDXA that  they
> should be
> actively looking over the CQP submissions and  recruiting
> those guys
> as members, and getting them to submit  their logs. 
> This is the
> go get 'em spirit that's  needed.
> 
> I'd contend that anything North of SF is fair game  for
> REDXA to go
> recruit.  Target all those high QSO count  county
> expeditions - Glenn, Sierra, Tehama, Colusa, Del Norte,
>  Humbolt, etc.
> 
> When N6RC and I hit Glenn a couple of times, I  submitted my
> score for
> REDXA.  After awhile, I gave up,  as I didn't feel the
> connection to the
> club.
> 
>  73, K6TD -KR-
> 



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