[Mldxcc] K1N

Rick ab1u at volcano.net
Tue Feb 17 20:59:08 EST 2015


Yes, I use a seperate decoder on the second receiver of my FT5000. 
Actually, I have 3 decoders going, I use a version of MMTTY and a 
version of 2 Tone to decode my main receiver. Most of the time, they 
both decode OK but with fluttery signals, QRN, QRM, etc. one will decode 
and the other will not. Just my estimate but 2 tone seems to win 9 out 
of 10 times when there is noise. I went to these two decoders on the 
main RX because I was noticing that, occasionally, the station I was 
working seemed to get my call wrong. Actually, I found out by adding 2 
tone to the main RX, that they were sending my call correctly but my 
version of MMTTY was decoding it wrong. Some common iterations of a bad 
call for me are W6GKC and W6RKN and of course, the always common W6RK. 
GKC and RKN occur quite a bit though. So by looking at 2 tone's 
decoding, if I see W6RKC in that window, I know they have my call OK and 
I do not have to go into gyrations to try and get them to correct it.

In split DXpedition operation, when they call a station, I start tuning 
the second receiver until I see the call of the station being worked or 
599 ( unshifted TOO also) or 73 on the screen. By zero beating that 
signal, it is pretty easy to be the next person in their log, especially 
with a small pileup and the DX listening up 1 to 2Khz. Of course, with 
the super wide splits of K1N, it took a bit more time to zero in on the 
called station. I use MMTTY to decode these signals on the second RX. I 
have a RF Space SDR-IQ receiver hooked up to the IF out on the FT5K as a 
panadapter but I find it distracting. The Yaesu SM-5000 station monitor 
is one step above useless. You can tell if 10 or 12 meters is open by 
seeing a signal or two but beyond that, it is not worth watching.

YMMV,

73,

Rick, W6RKC


On 2/17/2015 4:22 PM, Robert Hess via Mldxcc wrote:
> Just wondering how the RTTY guys are doing this.  A decoder on the second receiver?  I didn't try to work them on RTTY but in the past I have just listened for a carrier dropping off about the same time the DX responds.  Not very scientific, I know.
>
> Bob
>        From: "gdaught6 at stanford.edu" <gdaught6 at stanford.edu>
>   To: nccc at contesting.com; mldxcc at contesting.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:39 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Mldxcc] K1N
>     
> Some time ago, AD6E/KH6TU wrote...
>
> < snip >
>
>> I gotta say that without the pan adapter (ie spectrum analyzer), I
>> would never have found where to transmit.
> Lots of people report this, but it rarely works for me.  Example:
>
> K1N : (In the clear!) K1N UP
>
> K6GT watches a massive wad of signals covering about 5kHz on the P3.  Usually it's
> a solid block, but sometimes a comb.  Even using a second receiver, it's very difficult
> to find 'where to transmit.'  I usually watch for the comb, and then try to wedge my
> signal in between the teeth.
>
> Oh, I got 'em on 40 CW, but it was more like luck than having 'found where to
> transmit' by using the P3 and/or second receiver.
>
> Like they say, it's better to be lucky than good.
>
> 73,
>
> George T Daughters, K6GT
> CU in the California QSO Party (CQP)
> October 3-4, 2015
>
>
>
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