[Mldxcc] Fw: Calif. AB1785 (Mobile Radio Usage While Driving)

jerryolive at comcast.net jerryolive at comcast.net
Thu Feb 23 14:59:42 EST 2017


My fear?  Hah!   Straw man argument Rick. You can keep using your precious radio,  just stop driving while doing so. 
Nobody needs to use a radio unless it is blue toothed. Period. 
Good law.  Put down your PTT mix,  put both hands on the steering wheel,  pay attention Rick. 
Jerry KD6WKY
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------ Original message------From: Rick WA6NHCDate: Thu, Feb 23, 2017 11:35To: mldxcc at contesting.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [Mldxcc] Fw: Calif. AB1785 (Mobile Radio Usage While Driving)
    No.  Your fear from a previous accident is no cause to limit my      Federal license.  Stupid happens every day and innocents get      caught up in it.
        This law is more than ham radio.  If affects delivery folks, cab      drivers, volunteers in service (Meals on Wheels is one example)      and it's a poorly written vague by definition law.  As such it      should be thrown out.  It will also severely limit us to provide      public service, which a tenet of our license.
        Refine it, exclude those that REQUIRE access to a radio for their      gainful employment or public service and try again.    Enforcement is the better answer, the previous law was succinct      and clear; yet one can see folks texting on any roadway.  You      can't make things better by adding more laws, you have to USE the      laws that are already in place.
        Rick NHC
        
    On 2/23/2017 11:27 AM,      jerryolive at comcast.net wrote:
                      This is a          good law. Put down your PTT mics,  put both hands on the          steering wheel,  and pay attention.         
                Jerry          KD6WKY        
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                    ------            Original message------          From:            Robert Hess via Mldxcc          Date:            Thu, Feb 23, 2017 11:11          To: El            Dorado County Amateur Radio Club;MLDXCC Lode;          Cc:           Subject:[Mldxcc]            Fw: Calif. AB1785 (Mobile Radio Usage While Driving)          
                                               
            
                                                                                              
                                                                To:  All Amateur Radio Clubs - ARRL                          Sacramento Valley Section                                                 From:  Norm Lucas (WB6RVR)                                                 I am communicating with you in this                          fashion to advise you of a new law that was                          passed and implemented by the California State                          Legislature that, effective January 1, 2017,                          makes it illegal to use any sort of mobile                          device while driving, unless it is "blue                          toothed" enabled, and was installed as part of                          the vehicles equipment as it left the                          factory.  This would include amateur and                          commercial mobile radio operations.  The                          simple use of picking up and keying a push to                          talk microphone while driving would now be                          considered a violation of this new law.                                                 I am referring to Calif. Assembly                          Bill 1785, the full text of which appears                          below.  When it was initially drafted, this                          bill pertained only to cell phone usage.                           During its journey through the legislative                          process, it went through a number of rewrites                          and amendments, such that we are now saddled                          with a new law that prohibits all mobile                          operations (amateur and commercial) while                          driving.                                                 The first violation/citation carries                          with it a $20.00 fine.  The second violation                          would be $50.00.  At this time, it is unknown                          if the receipt of any citation for violation                          of this new law would affect your drivers                          license record, or insurance rates.  An                          amateur radio operator using his mobile radio                          in Palo Alto, has already received a citation                          for violating this law.                                                 Initial contacts will several Chiefs                          of Police in various jurisdictions though out                          California have given us feedback that is all                          over the map, ranging from "we are going to                          enforce it," to "we won't bother."  The CHP                          position on this is to apparently enforce the                          law at the officer's discretion.                                                 We have been in contact with the                          ARRL, and it is unknown at this time if they                          will lend their support, or take a leading                          role to amend this law. At this point, "finger                          pointing"  or any laying blame is pointless                          and will not serve to get this law amended.  To                              be clear and as of now, the ARRL is not in                              any way sanctioning or participating in                              this effort.                                                  A small group of amateurs (myself                          included), have taken up the task to at least                          try and do something.                                                   Please go to the following link and                          sign the "on line" petition, which will                          formally record you as being in support of                          amending this law.                                                   https://www.change.org/p/california-state-house-qualify-or-repeal-ab-1785-re-immersive-v-passive-devices?recruiter=17018523&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive                                                                   If you are personally acquainted with                        someone that owns and operates a tow truck                        company, cab company, utility company, etc.,                         please share this communication with them, as                        this law directly affects them, too.  Otherwise,                        it would be appreciated if you shared this with                        your membership and ask them to give it the                        widest circulation possible.                                             Again, the full text of the new law is                        attached below.                                             If you have any questions, please                        contact me.                                             73,                                             Norm Lucas (WB6RVR)                      27 Casey Court                      Sacramento, CA  95838                      916-284-3737                      wb6rvr at aol.com                                             ////                                                                     BILL NUMBER: AB 1785   CHAPTERED                                BILL TEXT                                                         CHAPTER  660                                FILED WITH SECRETARY OF STATE  SEPTEMBER 26, 2016                                APPROVED BY GOVERNOR  SEPTEMBER 26, 2016                                PASSED THE SENATE  AUGUST 17, 2016                                PASSED THE ASSEMBLY  AUGUST 23, 2016                                AMENDED IN SENATE  AUGUST 3, 2016                                AMENDED IN SENATE  JUNE 30, 2016                                AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY  MAY 27, 2016                                AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY  APRIL 5, 2016                                AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY  MARCH 28, 2016                                                 INTRODUCED BY   Assembly Member Quirk                           (Coauthor: Assembly Member Frazier)                                                                         FEBRUARY 4, 2016                                                    An act to repeal and add Section 23123.5 of the Vehicle Code,                        relating to vehicles.                                                                                  LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST                                                                             AB 1785, Quirk. Vehicles: use of wireless electronic devices.                           Existing law prohibits a person from driving a motor vehicle while                        using an electronic wireless communications device to write, send,                        or read a text-based communication, as defined, unless the electronic                        wireless communications device is specifically designed and                        configured, and is used, to allow voice-operated and hands-free                        operation, as specified. A violation of these provisions is an                        infraction.                           This bill would instead prohibit a person from driving a motor                        vehicle while holding and operating a handheld wireless telephone or                        a wireless electronic communication device, as defined. The bill                        would authorize a driver to operate a handheld wireless telephone or                        a wireless electronic communications device in a manner requiring the                        use of the driver's hand only under specified conditions. By                        changing the definition of a crime, the bill would impose a                        state-mandated local program.                           The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local                        agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the                        state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that                        reimbursement.                           This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this                        act for a specified reason.                                                                          THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:                                                   SECTION 1.  Section 23123.5 of the Vehicle Code is repealed.                          SEC. 2.  Section 23123.5 is added to the Vehicle Code, to read:                           23123.5.  (a) A person shall not drive a motor vehicle while                        holding and operating a handheld wireless telephone or an electronic                        wireless communications device unless the wireless telephone or                        electronic wireless communications device is specifically designed                        and configured to allow voice-operated and hands-free operation, and                        it is used in that manner while driving.                           (b) This section shall not apply to manufacturer-installed systems                        that are embedded in the vehicle.                           (c) A handheld wireless telephone or electronic wireless                        communications device may be operated in a manner requiring the use                        of the driver's hand while the driver is operating the vehicle only                        if both of the following conditions are satisfied:                           (1) The handheld wireless telephone or electronic wireless                        communications device is mounted on a vehicle's windshield in the                        same manner a portable Global Positioning System (GPS) is mounted                        pursuant to paragraph (12) of subdivision (b) of Section 26708 or is                        mounted on or affixed to a vehicle's dashboard or center console in a                        manner that does not hinder the driver's view of the road.                           (2) The driver's hand is used to activate or deactivate a feature                        or function of the handheld wireless telephone or wireless                        communications device with the motion of a single swipe or tap of the                        driver's finger.                           (d) A violation of this section is an infraction punishable by a                        base fine of twenty dollars ($20) for a first offense and fifty                        dollars ($50) for each subsequent offense.                           (e) This section does not apply to an emergency services                        professional using an electronic wireless communications device while                        operating an authorized emergency vehicle, as defined in Section                        165, in the course and scope of his or her duties.                           (f) For the purposes of this section, "electronic wireless                        communications device" includes, but is not limited to, a broadband                        personal communication device, a specialized mobile radio device, a                        handheld device or laptop computer with mobile data access, a pager,                        or a two-way messaging device.                          SEC. 3.  No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to                        Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution because                        the only costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school                        district will be incurred because this act creates a new crime or                        infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty                        for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the                        Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the                        meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California                        Constitution.                                                                                   
                                                              
                  
                                                                        
            
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