[Nodxa] Notes on FT8 ops with 3DA0 etc.

[Glenn Williams]

Sorry to add to this thread in everyone's mailbox.

I am not running the latest version of WSJTX.  I run 2.2.something. I am 
not in the shack and won't be for a while so I will continue anyway.  
Yes I know that it's not the latest. But it works with no glitches if 
the DX is not F/H.

FT8 standard frequency  21074.    Two maybe three times without running 
as F/H  (like  I said - no info) and I got the line back with the 
semicolon and two calls.  The very second  that FT8 started my answer to 
that line the whole thing crashed out to a regular clean desktop.  It 
was at least a day later when I was able to force a  QSO by quickly 
restarting FT8 and clicking on TX4 sending ONLY. That seemed to fake out 
3DA0xx because it did not know I had disappeared and restarted.  I got 
the confirmation in ClubLog.

--73, Glenn, AF8C

On 10/20/2021 10:25 AM, Bob Liddy (K8BL) wrote:
>   I called them in normal mode and they answered me with a reportand did a 73 to someone else in the same message. I thought it wasodd, but it worked. Thanks for the clarification.  de Bob K8BL
>      On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 04:10:27 AM GMT-5, <wb8k-2 at att.net> wrote:
>   
>   They are also using MSHV software written by LZ2HV. This a multi slot protocol and is not f/h mode. It makes them appear to be operating in regular ft8 mode but working multiple stations in the same time slot. Sometimes it looks like they have two transmitters transmitting 60Hz apart.
>
> Denny - WB8K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nodxa <nodxa-bounces at lists.contesting.com> On Behalf Of Williams, G (af8c) via Nodxa
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 12:24 AM
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> Subject: [Nodxa] Notes on FT8 ops with 3DA0 etc.
>
> Hi,
>
> 1)
>
> IF
>
> you see in the FT8 Band Activity panel that the DX station is sending double reports with a semicolon , such as
>
> K1ABC RR73; W9XYZ <KH1/KH7Z.>  -17
>
> THEN
>
> you should be using FOX/HOUND mode as hound if you are going to make calls.  This will greatly aid your getting a QSO.  But don't set up hound mode if there is no semicolon unless you are otherwise advised.
>
> Apparently  in the F/H case (example is in monitoring with DXSUMMIT) receiving ops are uploading reports to the cluster WITHOUT advising you to use F/H mode in WSJTX.  In this case when it's really the DX running F/H and you want a QSO, you need to know.
>
> 2)
>
> Also, and just my opinion with some paranoia,  some ops are advising the cluster of the DX being on a frequency when the DX is NOT calling.
> Tonight I see many NA transmissions calling 3DA0  (RU or WW)  but never a return from the 3DA0 station. And I also see no or few signal reports in the Band Activity panel;  ops aren't completing QSOs so it can't be just my receiver.
>
> --73, Glenn, AF8C
>
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