KC9CDT: ORION with no NR on = very loud and annoying background noise... This is the Digital AGC bringing up the background noise. Try increasing AGC Threshold and it should decrease. I sometimes set Threshold to maximum (191.48 uV) under heavy QRN conditions on 160 meters. AGC is the trickiest thing to learn to use on Orion IMHO. 73, Bill W4ZV