[Orion] Orion 565 locks in CW tx mode

Dick Coates dick at mbtsa.co.za
Thu Mar 26 09:56:34 EDT 2015 

Hi Barry, yes, I've done the fix on that one at the same time as I replaced
the display, and the battery.

Dick  ZS6BUN


-----Original Message-----
From: Orion [mailto:orion-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
Sent: 26 March 2015 15:53 PM
To: orion at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Orion] Orion 565 locks in CW tx mode

Dick, are you saying the RIT/XIT knobs won't change the value unless you
push in on the knob as you turn?

That's an old issue with a long history and a possible fix:
http://tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=565ritfix

Barry N1EU

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Dick Coates <dick at mbtsa.co.za> wrote:

> Yup.   Somewhere in a thread I saw that a ham in the US found that his key
> socket on the back of the unit was shorting.  Maybe I have the same
> problem.
> Never come across a socket shorting out before ( but never have I had
> to press on the front panel of a rig to make the RIT/XIT work !). Ah
> well, off with the covers !
>
> Tnx   73  Dick  ZS6BUN
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Orion [mailto:orion-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry
> N1EU
> Sent: 26 March 2015 15:14 PM
> To: orion at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Orion] Orion 565 locks in CW tx mode
>
> That's probably a good sign.  Something seems to be shorting your key
> line.
> That's why I asked you to unplug everything.  So if it is doing this
> with everything unplugged but power and antenna, I'd start tracing the
> key lines and see what is causing that short.
>
> Barry N1EU
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Dick Coates <dick at mbtsa.co.za> wrote:
>
> > Yes it does - a string of dits
> >
> > Dick   ZS6BUN
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Orion [mailto:orion-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry
> > N1EU
> > Sent: 26 March 2015 13:39 PM
> > To: orion at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [Orion] Orion 565 locks in CW tx mode
> >
> > If you turn ON the internal keyer, does the rig xmit a string of
> > dits or dahs instead of a continuous carrier in UCW/LCW?
> >
> > Barry N1EU
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:17 AM, Dick Coates <dick at mbtsa.co.za> wrote:
> >
> > > Morning Barry.  I did as you recommended and the radio still
> > > switches
> > into
> > > key down CW.   Sherman, I've reset the User1 and User2 parameters to
> > > "default values".  Jack, thanks for the suggestions: I replaced
> > > the battery about 18 months ago, at the same time as I replaced
> > > the display and the horrible Molex was replaced with an Anderson
> > > about 3
> > years
> > > ago !
> > >
> > > My wife tells me "I'm one of a kind" but I'm sure somebody
> > > somewhere must have had the same problem.  The last thing I want
> > > to do is put in a box and send it all the way to Sevierville.
> > > Paul's recommendation was a Master Reset but that did nothing for the
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > Everything else is fine !
> > >
> > > 73   Dick  ZS6BUN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Orion [mailto:orion-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Barry N1EU
> > > Sent: 25 March 2015 16:30 PM
> > > To: orion at contesting.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Orion] Orion 565 locks in CW tx mode
> > >
> > > Turn the Internal Keyer to "off" in the CW Menu.
> > >
> > > There's no way a Keying Loop setting is going to force the rig to
> > > transmit, or am I missing something?
> > >
> > > With everything unplugged except a dummy load and power supply,
> > > and with internal keyer "off", the rig still locks in transmit in cw
> > > mode?
> > >
> > > Barry N1EU
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Dick Coates <dick at mbtsa.co.za>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Sherman,  the question then is  "what are the "right" or
> > > > "default"
> > > > settings ?
> > > >
> > > > Dick, ZS6BUN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Sherman Banks [mailto:w4atl at shermanbanks.net]
> > > > Sent: 25 March 2015 16:06 PM
> > > > To: Dick Coates
> > > > Subject: Re: [Orion] Orion 565 locks in CW tx mode
> > > >
> > > > I seem to remember a setting in the keying loop or keyer in the
> > > > menus that would get it in that condition. Go through the TX
> > > > menu and make sure the settings are right or at their default
> > > > setting.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Mar 25, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Dick Coates <dick at mbtsa.co.za> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Barry. I'm sure I've done that but I'll do it again
> > > > > just to make sure !
> > > > >
> > > > > Dick  ZS6BUN
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Orion [mailto:orion-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > > Barry N1EU
> > > > > Sent: 25 March 2015 13:07 PM
> > > > > To: orion at contesting.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Orion] Orion 565 locks in CW tx mode
> > > > >
> > > > > First thing I would do is unplug everything from the radio
> > > > > except antenna and power.  Then check if it still behaves like
> that.
> > > > >
> > > > > 73, Barry N1EU
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Dick Coates
> > > > >> <dick at mbtsa.co.za>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have an Orion 565 with firmware 3.032x5. When I select mode
> > > > >> UCW or LCW the txcvr immediately goes into tx and transmits a
> > > > >> continuous carrier and locks in this mode until I change back
> > > > >> to USB
> > > or
> > > > >> LSB.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If the rig in in USB or LSB  as soon as I use the tuner the
> > > > >> rig locks again.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I seem to recall this started after I inadvertently pressed
> > > > >> User1 or
> > > > >> User2  when keying in UCW (but I’m not 100% sure)  I have
> > > > >> tried a Master Reset and also reloading the firmware buit
> > > > >> this doesn’t fix the problem.  Any bright ideas out there please?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 73  Dick  ZS6BUN
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Dick Coates
> > > > >>
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