[RFI] Big Farad versus Hybrid Caps?

K1TTT K1TTT at ARRL.NET
Fri Jun 19 04:02:08 PDT 2009


I know that, I work at EPRI (www.epri.com) and we worked on developing
commercial applications for the super caps.  But chrome plating?!?! And
built in volt/amp meters????  Can't you just buy a bare cap and not worry
about the meters and blinking lights?


David Robbins K1TTT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: kd4e [mailto:doc at kd4e.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 01:49
> To: K1TTT
> Cc: 'RFI List'
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Big Farad versus Hybrid Caps?
> 
> Again, *ignore* the hype and look at the technology.
> 
> The technology works because I own the tiny Gamma PS that
> uses it: http://www.gammaresearch.net/hps-1a.html
> 
> Here is a paper from the early days of the hybrid technology:
> http://www.evanscap.com/carts14.pdf
> 
> Maxwell has been working on this a lot as well - it is often
> marketed like snake-oil to the audio guys but there is some
> hard science buried under all of the hype.
> 
> http://www.maxwell.com/ultracapacitors/index.asp
> 
> The challenge is to separate the fact from the hype.  The O2
> cables
> and gold-plated everything is hype ... but let's not toss
> the baby
> with the bath-water without a close hard look at the science
> behind each product.
> 
> > I love it... chrome trimmed caps with volt and amp meters and blue led
> light
> > strips!  Be sure to hook them up only with the oxygen free copper
> cables,
> > gold terminals and don't try to save by using 4ga cable, use the 1/0
> stuff!
> >
> >
> > David Robbins K1TTT
> >>
> >> Ignoring the hype and the prices - can someone address the
> >> difference
> >> in technology between a big Farad cap and a Hybrid?
> >>
> >> http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Control/fp/tcat/28044/SFV/30046
> >>
> >> Something like this "Power Acoustik CAPCELL-300" (300A x 2
> >> seconds)
> >> placed in-line with the vehicle DC supply, or at home
> >> in-line with a big
> >> deep-cycle battery or a AC-DC power supply, sounds like a
> >> cost-effective
> >> and compact way to make sure a solid state amp has all the
> >> current it needs
> >> when it needs it.
> >>
> >> At home my plan is a US Battery 12V XC Sweeper-Scrubber
> >> deep-cycle
> >> (Amp Hours @ 20hr. rate 155min./75A for 77A continuous) with
> >> a 20A
> >> float charger.  If I add a big Farad or Hybrid it seems that
> >> I should be fine
> >> for normal SSB operation of a 700W output solid state amp.
> >> that usually
> >> wants about 60A @ 13.8VDC.
> >>
> >> WDYT?
> 
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