[RFI] More on "my" noise.

Dale J. dj2001x at comcast.net
Mon Apr 28 15:19:55 EDT 2014


Or phase noise either in the receiver or transmitter.

Dale, k9vuj





On 28, Apr 2014, at 13:59, "k1fz" <k1fz at myfairpoint.net> wrote:

> The wide width is most likely coming from receiver overload, or a noise blanker that somehow elecrically is still on.
> 
> 73
> Bruce-K1FZ
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert via RFI" <rfi at contesting.com>
> To: "Don Moman VE6JY" <ve6jy.1 at gmail.com>; <Rfi at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [RFI] More on "my" noise.
> 
> 
>> Yep, heard in Portland on 4386 kHz about S3 less than 4 kHz wide!
>> 
>> Bob W7KD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Don Moman VE6JY <ve6jy.1 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Rfi at contesting.com" <Rfi at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 10:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RFI] More on "my" noise.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As other have said STANAG is very common on HF. I have used SIGMIRA
>>> software in the past to decode it.
>>> 
>>> I hear the signal on 4286 khz very loud here at almost any time, even now
>>> (almost midday) it is strong so I'd suspect the signal would come from CFS
>>> transmitters near Matsqui, BC. I do not know this for a fact so don't turn
>>> it into one.
>>> I do know that the signal observed here is less than 4 khz wide and if it
>>> was truly as wide as you claim (over 3 mhz), that would be a serious issue
>>> and would be widely reported by the many amateurs in the PNW.
>>> 
>>> Don
>>> VE6JY
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Charles Gallo <charlie at thegallos.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There are a lot of STANAGs. STANAG stands for Standards Agreement, and the
>>>> are NATO agreements on standards for just about everything
>>>> 
>>>> > On Apr 28, 2014, at 12:19 PM, "Dale J." <dj2001x at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I've never heard of that term , STANAG before, you sure that's some > sort
>>>> of digital communication?
>>>> >
>>>> > I looked around your area (satellite) and see no military complex for
>>>> miles around. I suppose it could be a remote transmitter, but I'd have to
>>>> ask why Moscow Idaho?
>>>> >
>>>> > At that signal strength I would expect the interference to be very > close
>>>> to your location. Unless it is some sort of high power military remote
>>>> transmitter, then others would surely hear it too. Is it on 24/7 or just
>>>> certain times? Maybe you should log the times it's on then correlate with
>>>> times other commercial establishments are occupied. If you have a portable
>>>> receiver that tunes that freq, take it for a ride out of town, park and see
>>>> if you hear it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Dale, k9vuj
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 28, Apr 2014, at 10:15, Kenneth G. Gordon >> <kgordon2006 at frontier.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> From one of our list members who has heard my smaller-sized >> recordings
>>>> of
>>>> >> this garbage, it is STANAG, which is the defacto standard military
>>>> digital
>>>> >> mode.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This is very seriously depressing me.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I cannot even imagine who in this area might be using that mode. We >> have
>>>> >> no military installations anywhere near this small town. The nearest
>>>> one, an
>>>> >> AFB, is in Spokane, WA nearly 100 miles north of us.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It is centered on 4286 KHz and literally wipes out EVERYTHING at >> least
>>>> 1.5
>>>> >> MHz above and below that frequency.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It is 25db over S-9 on 4286 KHz, and still 15db over S-9 on the LOW >> end
>>>> of
>>>> >> 80 meters.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I intend to DF its location this week, now that I can easily >> recognize
>>>> the
>>>> >> signal.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Kenneth G. Gordon W7EKB
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway."--- John
>>>> Wayne
>>>> >>
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