[RFI] More on "my" noise.

[Tom Thompson]

It could be that the broadband noise is local and the STANAG signal at 
4286.3 kHz is strong enough to poke through the broadband noise and they 
are not related at all.

Tom   W0IVJ

On 4/28/2014 1:19 PM, Dale J. wrote:
> Or phase noise either in the receiver or transmitter.
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> Dale, k9vuj
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> On 28, Apr 2014, at 13:59, "k1fz" <k1fz at myfairpoint.net> wrote:
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>> The wide width is most likely coming from receiver overload, or a noise blanker that somehow elecrically is still on.
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>> 73
>> Bruce-K1FZ
>> www.qsl.net/k1fz/beveragenotes.html
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert via RFI" <rfi at contesting.com>
>> To: "Don Moman VE6JY" <ve6jy.1 at gmail.com>; <Rfi at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 2:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RFI] More on "my" noise.
>>
>>
>>> Yep, heard in Portland on 4386 kHz about S3 less than 4 kHz wide!
>>>
>>> Bob W7KD
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>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Don Moman VE6JY <ve6jy.1 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Rfi at contesting.com" <Rfi at contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 10:19 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RFI] More on "my" noise.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As other have said STANAG is very common on HF. I have used SIGMIRA
>>>> software in the past to decode it.
>>>>
>>>> I hear the signal on 4286 khz very loud here at almost any time, even now
>>>> (almost midday) it is strong so I'd suspect the signal would come from CFS
>>>> transmitters near Matsqui, BC. I do not know this for a fact so don't turn
>>>> it into one.
>>>> I do know that the signal observed here is less than 4 khz wide and if it
>>>> was truly as wide as you claim (over 3 mhz), that would be a serious issue
>>>> and would be widely reported by the many amateurs in the PNW.
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>> VE6JY
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>>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Charles Gallo <charlie at thegallos.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are a lot of STANAGs. STANAG stands for Standards Agreement, and the
>>>>> are NATO agreements on standards for just about everything
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 12:19 PM, "Dale J." <dj2001x at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never heard of that term , STANAG before, you sure that's some > sort
>>>>> of digital communication?
>>>>>> I looked around your area (satellite) and see no military complex for
>>>>> miles around. I suppose it could be a remote transmitter, but I'd have to
>>>>> ask why Moscow Idaho?
>>>>>> At that signal strength I would expect the interference to be very > close
>>>>> to your location. Unless it is some sort of high power military remote
>>>>> transmitter, then others would surely hear it too. Is it on 24/7 or just
>>>>> certain times? Maybe you should log the times it's on then correlate with
>>>>> times other commercial establishments are occupied. If you have a portable
>>>>> receiver that tunes that freq, take it for a ride out of town, park and see
>>>>> if you hear it.
>>>>>> Dale, k9vuj
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28, Apr 2014, at 10:15, Kenneth G. Gordon >> <kgordon2006 at frontier.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>  From one of our list members who has heard my smaller-sized >> recordings
>>>>> of
>>>>>>> this garbage, it is STANAG, which is the defacto standard military
>>>>> digital
>>>>>>> mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is very seriously depressing me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cannot even imagine who in this area might be using that mode. We >> have
>>>>>>> no military installations anywhere near this small town. The nearest
>>>>> one, an
>>>>>>> AFB, is in Spokane, WA nearly 100 miles north of us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is centered on 4286 KHz and literally wipes out EVERYTHING at >> least
>>>>> 1.5
>>>>>>> MHz above and below that frequency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is 25db over S-9 on 4286 KHz, and still 15db over S-9 on the LOW >> end
>>>>> of
>>>>>>> 80 meters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I intend to DF its location this week, now that I can easily >> recognize
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> signal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kenneth G. Gordon W7EKB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway."--- John
>>>>> Wayne
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