[RFI] w7ekb & ground rods

[dalej]

I never checked with local inspection when I drove my ground rods into the ground.  All I know is what I took out and what was copper clad ground rods were not copper clad after being in the ground for quite a while.  They might still be good ground rods, but were not in the same condition as when I purchased them.  That tells me they deteriorated from their original condition and that is not good in my humble estimation.  Maybe they are still good, but seems that if they are not in the same condition as when first purchased that they may be suspect as ground rods, but that doesn't say they may still deliver the original intent as ground rods, etc.  

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Dale, k9vuj

On 16, Jan 2015, at 19:36, DWKANEPE at aol.com wrote:

The NEC does not preclude galvanized ground electrodes.  Article 250.52 (A)(5) indicates what is permitted by the NEC....it includes galvanized pipe and rod electrodes. Note: Some local codes will prohibit galvanized electrodes due to soil chemistry which will attack the zinc coating. There are UL Listed ground rods available from some suppliers.
 
Don
WB2BEZ
 
In a message dated 1/16/2015 5:21:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dj2001x at comcast.net writes:
The copper coated rods eventually will deteriorate, I've found too.  After pulling them out I've found them speckled where the copper has eroded away and the base material shown.  I like the solid copper tubing as ground rods better, but they are not that easy to embed.  Use water to get them in the ground.  

Dale, k9vuj


On 16, Jan 2015, at 15:47, "EDWARDS, EDDIE J" <eedwards at oppd.com> wrote:

Frank,

You might know this since you have some tall towers up in the air.

Did the contradictions between NEC (copper ground rods) and EIA/TIA-222F (12.2.2-galvanized steel ground rods) ever get resolved?  At work we follow NEC on comm buildings and are forced to follow 222 on tower structures.

The only place we’ve actually used some new galvanized steel ground rods was on guy wire grounds on our 500 ft towers and only in the southeast part of Nebraska with the known soil problems for galvanic corrosion.  That was after an inspection we found 1.5 to 2 inch holes on 4 inch anchors and the copper rods almost totally gone.

73, de ed –K0iL

From: donovanf at starpower.net [mailto:donovanf at starpower.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:35 PM
To: rfi at contesting.com
Cc: EDWARDS, EDDIE J; DWKANEPE at aol.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] w7ekb & ground rods

NEC quotes relevant to this discussion:

Not less than two driven ground rods placed at a minimum of 6 feet
apart when a non-metallic water piping system exists or is to be installed.

A separate grounding conductor to each ground rod shall be utilized

The grounding electrode conductor shall be solid or stranded, sized in
accordance with the requirements of the NEC but shall in no case be less
than No. 6 AWG copper or No. 4 AWG aluminum or copper-clad aluminum.

All ground rods will be required to be minimum 1/2" x 8' copper weld or
5/8” x 8’ copper plated only.

No galvanized rods or piping will be accepted as a grounding electrode.

73
Frank
W3LPL



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