[RFI] FCC Complaint Filing

Dave Cole dave at nk7z.net
Fri Nov 22 18:30:47 EST 2019


Hi Brad,

See my article in the March 2019 isue of CQ on getting a feel for your 
RFI environment on the cheap using an SDR...

Then see:

https://www.nk7z.net/sdr-rfi-survey-p1/

for how to set up an SDRPlay SDR and HDSDR, as a tool to overview your 
entire RFI environment over a 24 hour period, and across wide swaths of 
spectrum.

Far better than a Spectrum Analyzer for this use.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/22/19 2:00 PM, N8GLS wrote:
> Good point.  I hate to spend the money but think I may need a Spectrum Analyzer.  This is an RFI mess up here, these lights would be one of twenty interference issues.  I have two other sources of broadband noise needing to be found, all the others are harmonics scattered up and down the band(s).  The analyzer would be a help in sorting this all out as well as giving me some relevant and credible data.
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> Brad, N8GLS
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> From: Sean Waite <waisean at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 3:25 PM
> To: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
> Cc: KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk at earthlink.net>; n8gls at arrl.net; RFI <rfi at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] FCC Complaint Filing
> 
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> We have a lot of police and public safety on frequencies in the 150MHz range around here - if you can hear it up a little above 2m it may be worth mentioning that on any FCC filing. Interference with police band is likely to get a little more attention than interference with an amateur station.
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> 73,
> 
> Sean WA1TE
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> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:45 PM Joe <nss at mwt.net <mailto:nss at mwt.net> > wrote:
> 
> If this neighbor is honestly really not going to co-operate.
> 
> And you don't care if he remains neighborly, Try hitting him with this.
> 
> Nicely say I have been nice trying to work with you on this issue. The
> fix is relatively inexpensive. But you don't seem to care.
> 
> So it leaves me no other option to get the FCC involved. And I will
> start to make a LOG starting today showing your interference to a
> Federally licensed station.
> 
> I hope your pretty lights are worth this much to you, and hand him what
> the penalties are for causing this interference.
> 
> I found a summary, but probably find the actual real item to give to
> him.  but...
> 
> 
> The Communications Act of 1934, as amended, and the *FCC's* Rules
> authorize a base *fine* of $7,000 for each day an entity causes
> *interference* to *authorized stations*.Oct 17, 2019
> 
> 
> Tell him this is 7 thousand dollars for each and every day you continue
> to interfere with my federally licensed station.
> 
> 1 week? Thats 49 Thousand dollars for each week. Are those lights that
> important to you?
> 
> Joe WB9SBD
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> On 11/22/2019 11:20 AM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote:
>> "Thus the reason for the FCC complaint as I see no other recourse."
>>
>> Generally speaking, having worked with numerous agencies, at various
>> levels, for many years, I highly suggest a "Formal" complaint to
>> start.  You will get a written verification, with a case number that
>> will be followed up upon, will pop up within the system at regular
>> intervals, not be closed until you inform them to do so after complete
>> resolution, and may even be audited (this is a good thing, for you, if
>> there are problems within the agency).  I have done this many times,
>> with excellent results, it's how the system works.
>>
>>
>> "Informal" typically equates to, forgotten as soon as the phone is
>> hung up, or tossed in the round file, if even noted, the idea being,
>> if you aren't serious, they certainly won't be, which usually means,
>> little effort made, if any, will probably never be followed up on, or
>> thought of again, and not something that will be caught up in an
>> audits.  It's like, "Hey!  I got a problem! (Spend an hour describing
>> it, notes, photos, recordings, maybe tears in the eyes...)".  Response
>> from the almost always minimum wage, part time intern at the front
>> counter rarely concerned beyond when the next break, or paycheck is,
>> that picked up the phone on a slow day: "Huh.  Yeah.  OK."  I have
>> done this many times (the complaint part), never with any desired
>> result, it's how the system works.
>>
>> "I did again last night reach out to the ARRL for any possible
>> intervention"
>>
>> Again?  I thought the ARRL jumped on this stuff.
>>
>> FCC.  Good, get the ball rolling, formally, then, while that is
>> churning away, try more "diplomacy" through other routes.  If that
>> works in a few weeks, or months, great, and you can tell the FCC it's
>> been resolved.  If not, you're days, weeks, or months ahead of the
>> game for a formal action.
>>
>> Slowest, yet most affective method first to save time.  Good tactic!
>>
>> Please keep us posted on ARRL response.
>>
>> Kurt
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