[RFI] Oven RFI help needed

Edward Mccann edwmccann at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 23 13:28:35 EDT 2020


This sounds like the basis for a new award, Worked All Ovens.

Ed McCann
AG6CX

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> On Apr 23, 2020, at 7:48 AM, Hare, Ed W1RFI <w1rfi at arrl.org> wrote:
> 
> This cannot be emphasized enough -- doing any repairs to neighbors' equipment can carry  a risk of liability.  This is especially true for any device where  malfunction such as this may cause a fire.  A stove turning on by itself is as major a risk as i can imagine, as I think about the number of times a stove has been used to hold a pizza box or other flammable items are placed on or near it.
> 
> I usually feel pretty comfortable adding external filters to routine appliances, although if that tv set ever does catch fire -- and they can -- someone may decide that it's because of that doohickey that you put on the TV.  Even when that 20-year old TV finally gives up the ghost, they my blame you and want the new 60" flat-screen model, please.
> 
> When it comes to interference caused by your fundamental signal overloading neighboring equipment, you are first and foremost a locator of solutions, not a providor of solutions.
> 
> Ed, W1RFI
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org at contesting.com> on behalf of Cianciolo, Paul, W1VLF <pcianciolo at arrl.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:17 AM
> To: Dan <w8car at buckeye-express.com>; rfi at contesting.com <rfi at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Oven RFI help needed
> 
> Dan,
> 
> Please do not  open the stove or do anything internal.
> First off this is critical to safety. The RFI can do a lot more than just make noise  or flash lights.
> 
> I have a recent case in the ARRL RFI database when a Hams neighbor was having his Samsung Gas stove turn on the oven  in the middle of the night.
> This happened to coincided with the Ham operating a 20 meters CW on a schedule.
> You do not want to have any liability for going inside off this stove..
> Call Samsung ,,
> Cal me at the number below and we can talk about this.
> 
> Here is the model number of the stove that would turn on based on RF.... Samsung Gas Range, Model NX58H5600SS/AA
> I also have several other cases of RFI ingress to the same model number.
> 
> In the local case above Samsung replaced the stove..
> Please give me a call.
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul Cianciolo, W1VLF
> ARRL EMC Engineer
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+pcianciolo=arrl.org at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Dan
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:17 PM
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Subject: [RFI] Oven RFI help needed
> 
> We recently purchased a new spiffy oven with lots of bells and whistles. There is a great touch pad to control all the nifty functions and it works well. The oven does not interfere with my station BUT....
> When I transmit at low power the oven beeps (the same beeps as the touch pad). If I run high power it becomes hysterical and sometimes locks up requiring a power down and restart. I have pulled the stove out and installed several clamp on toroids on the power cord to no effect. I have traced the wiring and I think it is on a dedicated circuit that runs back to the breaker box.
> 
> Interestingly, it has a “lock” function that disables the key pad and locks the over door shut. You can not use the oven with this engaged. But, I don’t affect the oven with the lock function engaged. I can live with this but can envision my lovely wife wanting to use the oven while I’m banging away in a pileup or contest. So, domestic bliss is the driver for my query.
> 
> It is a Samsung gas oven. If any one has any experience or ideas I would be very interested. I am loath at this point to pull the back off to put toroids or bypass caps in.
> 
> 73 Dan W8CAR
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