[RFI] US Regulatory Bodies [was Re: Another Solar Panel RFI System]

[Hare, Ed, W1RFI]

Are you suggesting that what the FCC has placed on its web site about what agency is reports to is incorrect? It was very specific that it is independent.

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From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org at contesting.com> on behalf of Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2022 11:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [RFI] US Regulatory Bodies [was Re: Another Solar Panel RFI System]

You or they can CALL it independent all they want.  But the President
appoints ALL the members subject to the advice and consent of the Senate.
Congress has oversight on the FCC.... just like it has oversight on the
REST of the Executive Branch.

There are ONLY THREE branches of government.  ALL governmental
organizations under the Federal Government belong to ONE of those THREE
branches.

The FCC is an Executive Function.

Clay E. Autery, Jr.
KY5G

On 12/18/2022 7:52 PM, Eric Rosenberg wrote:
> Jim's mistaken on this one...
>
> The FCC is an independent Government agency overseen by Congress (the legislative branch of government). Their  jurisdiction includes the private sector and state and local government
>
> The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) is part of the Department of Commerce (along with other organizations, including NOAA, NIST, Patent and Trade), which is part of the executive branch of government. Its jurisdiction is the executive branch agencies
>
> The President can assign tasks and responsibilities to Executive Branch agencies but not the FCC.
>
> How do I know this? I've been in NTIA's Office of Spectrum Management for almost 20 years.
>
> Decimated is a somewhat extreme description of what started in the Clinton administration.
>
> Both agencies have suffered from significant retirements and departures (private sector pay is noticeably higher than the civil service), difficulty in recruiting (no one seems to teach RF engineering, a significant plus in our arena), and yes, politics does play a not insignificant role in policy development and implementation.
>
> Welcome to today's real world, *very* different at many levels than what we experienced starting in the 1980's. Think of it as comparing a Heathkit to an Elecraft or a  Flex.
>
> If anyone is interested in continuing this discussion, feel free to email me off line, not on this reflector, please.
>
> 73,
> Eric W3DQ
>
> ----------- original message -------------
>
> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 10:32:19 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com<mailto:jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>>
> To: rfi at contesting.com<mailto:rfi at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel RFI System
>
> On 12/18/2022 9:09 AM, David Eckhardt wrote:
>> This is the only outlet I'm aware of where we can keep up with the efforts
>> of ARRL (doing the job FCC should be doing) and the stance of the FCC.
>> Remember, ARRL has both ears and eyes of the FCC with this issue.   I'm
>> glad we have this conduit to both.
> YES! And we can be thankful that W1RFI and our other representatives at ARRL understand that the politics and economics of the problem are at least as important as the technical ones.
>
> The FCC is under the Executive branch, and was decimated 40 years ago in the name of "small government" -- translated as less regulation of big
> biz that served to protect consumers (us). It has worked as intended.
>
> FCC Rules for RFI benefit big biz, not us.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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