[RFI] HVAC

Jim Brown jim at audiosystemsgroup.com
Mon Nov 11 16:14:14 EST 2024


Almost 30 years, Neil Muncy, W3WJE, (the Pin One Guy), showed me and an 
pro audio RFI colleague an in-house engineering report from a mfr of 
large variable speed drives. They were having problems with RFI from the 
drives screwing up the control circuitry from those drives, and 
identified the wiring between controller drive as a principal mechanism. 
The common thread was that the controllers and motors were widely 
separated.

We were interested because RFI from drives running elevator motors was 
getting into microphone circuits in large sound systems. A system Neil 
was working on was at large performing arts center in NJ.

A few years later, at a church in Dayton where I was inspecting a sound 
system I'd designed, I ran into an EE who specialized in EMC. We got to 
talking, and the conversation turned to variable speed drives in large 
installations. He volunteered that interconnecting wiring was the 
culprit, and we agreed that all of the current-carrying conductors had 
to be twisted pairs, which was the same solution Neil found. Obviously, 
making the controller and motor a single integrated package is also a 
great solution for smaller systems.

73, Jim K9YC


  On 11/11/2024 12:12 PM, Gary Johnson via RFI wrote:
> I wanted to mention one other good strategy that these new adjustable-speed drives are using: For most of the motors, they integrate all the power electronics right into the motor assembly, thus eliminating wires on the output side where the commutating waveforms and high circulating currents are present. Then they are applying proper RFI suppression to the incoming AC lines, again built right into the motor assembly. So the potential antenna lengths are greatly reduced and I’m seeing how effective this strategy actually is. The only motor without this approach is the big compressor, and that has a HUGE filter network nearby and also twisted wires to the motor, all inside a steel enclosure. Carrier was not being cheap or sloppy, and it shows.



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