[RTTY] AA5AU SARTG Score

Robert Bajuk s57aw at hamradio.si
Tue Aug 19 21:47:10 EDT 2003


Hello,

I agree with Goetz at that point. We - non USA hams are sometimes in a very
ungrateful situation when trying to make contest rules equal as much as
possible for all the contestants. We would like to make contest attractive
with some "non-standard" exchange like ITU or WAS zones for example.

Of course, I do respect FCC decision regarding non-portable calls, but
contest software doesn't know everyone and his/her actual QTH to count QSO
points correctly.

Scoring in SCC RTTY Championship (every last weekend in August) also depends
on USA calls areas:

7. QSO POINTS
   - One (1) QSO point for contacts within your own DXCC or WAE country;
   - Two (2) QSO points for contacts within your own continent but outside
your own DXCC or WAE  country;
   - Two (2) QSO points for contacts between different W, VE, VK, ZL, ZS, JA
and PY call areas, LU provinces and Asiatic Russia UA9/UA0 oblasts;
      Note: USA stations are kindly asked to use '/x', if operating outside
their own callsign area (K5ZD/1).
   - Three (3) QSO points for contacts outside your own continent.

Rules we made honest-to-goodness. We do think that big countries as USA, VE,
VK.... have to be exception in same way because to make QSO between W1 and
W7 is sometimes harder (and longer) than intercontinental contact.

That's the reason why USA stations are kindly asked to sign /x if operating
outside their own callsign area. I know that is not prescribed by FCC rules
but is not forbidden, too! Am I right? It is not easy to order something
with the rules what is incompatible with home legislation.

I really don't know what "kind request" means grammaticaly in US English, to
obey, simple ignore or to obey only when is good and gainful for someone:-)

73 de Robert, S57AW

----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ3IW Goetz" <dj3iw at t-online.de>
To: "RTTY" <RTTY at contesting.com>
Cc: "DJ3NG Sigi" <Siegfried.Semba at t-online.de>; "DL2YCA Peter"
<DL2YCA at t-online.de>; "DL4RCK Walter" <dl4rck at rckrtty.de>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] AA5AU SARTG Score


> Hello,
>
> following this thread, the subject of signing call/x
> seems to be a real problem for (some?) stateside contesters.
> Barry, W2UP requested "International contest sponsors need
> to realize that there are no US geographic call areas any
> more."
> Does the FCC issue new callsigns with area coding? Why do your
> regulations require you to sign /portable using the "non-existing
> call areas" for portable operation?
>
> I am, together with DJ3NG, DL2YCA and DL4RCK an international
> contest sponsor. What do you want us to do? My interpretation
> of Barrys request and the other comments made, is to DROP area
> multipliers for the USA. Alaska and Hawaii would also have to
> be counted as USA, as there are several AH6, KH6, NH6, WH6 and
> KL0, AL7, KL7, NL7, WL7 operating from W4-, W7-, W9-areas etc.
> Just one country multiplier and (using the DL-DX RTTY and SARTG RTTY
> as an example) just 5 points for in-country contacts for all of you
> in the 50 United States?
> Is it this what you guys want?
> Otherwise the concept of country multipliers would have to be dropped
> altogether and replaced by something else, like ITU- or CQ-zones.
>
> 73 de Goetz






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