[RTTY] RTTY Sweeps

[Rick Mintz]

I guess that I will answer your well considered points in order....

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From: "FireBrick" <w9ol at billnjudy.com>
To: "Rick Mintz" <Rmintz at Rochester.rr.com>; <rtty at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Sweeps


>I understand that Sweeps is a 24 hour contest. But it still chews up the weekend. Realistically, another major contest can not coexist in the same 'basic' timeframe as sweeps. 

A 4:00pm (ET) start does not necessarily mess up a weekend. If it does, it is only by our choice to participate. Obviously to compete with a "major" contest would be counter productive.

> I really don't see the advantage. There are already low power, antenna challenged rtty ops in the contests...  I rather see contests open to all ops, all countries. You can have certificates for all the various levels. 

A small station trying to work DX certainly can be successful if the are patient and have good skills. Maybe something more suited to the smaller station will generate more activity and interest in the mode. Possibly with low dipoles and low triband antennas they might even have some advantage over larger stations that are designed for low (DX) take off angles. Opening all contests to all countries negates the interest in state QSO parties and other similiar style contests. They all become DX contests.

> The problem with a rtty sweeps is....one bit takes a hit (rhyming not intended) and the exchange is corrupted and it might go unnoticed. So there could be a lot of penalties, especially for low power, antenna challenged. Sure would hate to see a newbie get dinged because he entered what he printed, never knowing it was wrong.

A dropped bit can happen in any RTTY contest (or a dropped DIT in CW). That is part of the skill set and motivation to improve one's station. And with the long Sweeps exchange being careful is mandatory. de 001 A W1TY 89 WNY
 
> I'd rather see a radically different contest, with different strategies than just another same old, same old. The contests which have become fun are the ones with different exchanges, like using age, or first licensed. WAE comes to mind. That one is challenging and never boring. Makrothen for another.

There is room for all styles and we are open to suggestions. More fun... count me in!

> But, saying all that. If a RTTY Sweeps does come to pass, I'll play, even though I'd think we could have been more inventive.

Thanks for the discussion. de Rick W1TY
 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Mintz" <Rmintz at Rochester.rr.com>
> To: <rtty at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:17 AM
> Subject: [RTTY] RTTY Sweeps
> 
> 
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Not to contest (good choice of words) your opinion but as a
>> clarification....
>>
>> (1) Sweeps is a 24 hour contest
>> (2) The are many US only contests now, so it is not unique to exclude DX
>> (3) RTTY Roundup as inferred by others is a US contest. It is a DX contest
>> but has state multipliers as in CQWW RTTY
>> (4) A Sweepstakes RTTY is to activate low power, antenna challenged stations
>> that cannot work DX in contest situations. With smaller stations working
>> W/VE only more emphasis would be on skill rather than horsepower.
>>
>> Rick W1TY
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:52:41 -0500
>>> From: "FireBrick" <w9ol at billnjudy.com>
>>> Subject: [RTTY] no rtty sweepstakes
>>> To: "RTTY List" <rtty at contesting.com>
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>>> We already have the RTTY Roundup.
>>>
>>> I agree with Waldemar, seems like a whole weekend US only rtty contest
>>> seems like it may
>>> be overkill.
>>>
>>>
>>> The contest that I always thought would be fun...would be a 3 or 5 man
>>> team contest.
>>> 3 or 5 US station team up, work everybody, combine logs and discount
>>> dupes.
>>> Score would be total multipliers X combined totals qsos minus dupes.
>>> Not sure how the non USA could form teams, maybe 3 or 5 guys in same
>>> zone???? or
>>> continent???
>>>
>>> Could be a lot of interesting choice of team members...
>>> Sure wouldn't like to be the contest committee member checking the logs
>>> though. :-(((
>>
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