[RTTY] LOST MY WPX LOG...

Julio VE3FH ve3fh at rac.ca
Thu Mar 1 21:16:34 EST 2007


Paolo, you have my full support, it's nice to see a reasonable approach to
contesting.

73,
Julio VE3FH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "I2UIY" <i2uiy at cqww.com>
To: "Shelby Summerville" <k4ww at arrl.net>; <rtty at contesting.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 28, 2007 15:14
Subject: Re: [RTTY] LOST MY WPX LOG...


> Dear Shelby,
> when I was writing my message to W7LD I immediately thought that someone
> could write what you wrote:
>
> >Paolo...I admire your effort in the log checking, I just believe that
your
> >"position", on "fixing the log", only encourages cheating?
>
> but I decided to keep writing and I just added "(I2UIY001 *IS* a typo, why
> should you leave it as it is?)" as an example of what I wanted to say.
>
> I did so because I'm checking logs since almost 20 years and during all
this
> time I never met someone that left in his log such a typo.
>
> I simply wrote to fix obvious typos.
> I did so because I like to split "theory" from what REALLY happens.
>
> The chances to cheat that you listed are really FUNNY to me.
> You don't know what "cheating" means. If someone wants to cheat in
> one of the ways that you listed... he's welcome. His score will not hurt
> the final ranking, no pain.
>
> REAL "cheating" means put 300+ invented callsigns in your log and then
> submit 2 fake-logs so the log-checking-software should not get you
> even if log checker looks for U+1.
>
> REAL "cheating" means having 2 stations running on 2 separate bands
> simultaneously and then rubber the clock to make it look like a simple
> band-change and I mean rubber the clock for 48 full hours, not for 5
> minutes.
>
> REAL "cheating" means setup 6 stations hundreds Km far from each
> other and then enter the contest as M/M claiming that all the stations
> were setup on the public road that belong to the State so all stations
> are on the same "property".
>
> REAL "cheating" means fill a 160m log with over 60 callsigns from the
> same, tiny, European country where there are no more than 20 users
> of that band.
>
> Ever seen "Blade Runner" when the replicant says "I've seen things you
> people wouldn't believe"?
>
> If you wanna start the contest 2 minutes earlier... please do it. How many
> QSOs are you planning to do in those 2 minutes? Two? Maybe 3, it's OK.
>
> I would love to believe that everybody just submits his the log as it was
on
> 23:59:59 UTC at the end of the contest but I do not believe it.
> Since everyone runs the contest from his own location, there is no way
> to check it so we must trust everybody but we well know that someone
> cheats.
>
> That's why we must keep our feet on the ground.
>
>
> Paolo, I2UIY
> WPX & CQWW RTTY Log Checker
>
>
> --------------------------------
>
>
>
> At 06.59 28/02/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >I2UIY, WPX RTTY Log Checker, wrote: Please READ your log (twice is better
> >than once) and fix the obvious typos (I2UIY001 *IS* a typo, why should
you
> >leave it
> >as it is?)."
> >
> >While I may be in the minority, on this situation.... I still contend
that
> >ANYTHING done to the log, post contest, that may effect the score, is, at
> >least unethical, if not illegal! Please explain the difference between
> >"typo", and "not copied correctly"? The contest has a "defined" time
frame,
> >and NOTHING, that may effect the score, should be done outside that "time
> >frame"? If I make several contacts, pre-contest, then "fix the time",
would
> >that be allowed? Actually I was only "fixing the typo"? I know, I
know...the
> >time is determined by the computer clock, but if it was off, by several
> >minutes, would that be a "typo"? If I wait long enough, but stay within
the
> >log submission requirement, there are several online QSL sites, that
allow
> >me to "compare" much of my log!
> >Paolo...I admire your effort in the log checking, I just believe that
your
> >"position", on "fixing the log", only encourages cheating?
> >
> >
> >73, Shelby - K4WW
>



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