[RTTY] CQ to accept eQSL for Awards..

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Yes, the attitude of those who won't provide proof of license 
and proof of identity to participate in LotW is a problem.  The 
arguments concerning "the card within a bundle" being sufficient 
to receive DXCC credit made at http://www.gd0tep.com/lotw.htm are 
not germane to the issue of proving identity which is at the 
heart of the LotW system.  Quite simply, a copy of the license 
proves only that the license exists (I can generate a photocopy 
of ANY US license from the FCC web site) but does not prove that 
the person submitting it is the person who is licensed or that 
they are authorized to submit it.  The second step - an identity 
document - is a minimally intrusive way to show that the applicant 
is the person they are represented to be. 

I was preparing a CQ award submission when the news concerning 
their acceptance of eQSL was released.  I have terminated that 
process and deleted the records as the CQ awards are no longer 
credible in my opinion.  That credibility was lost with the 
acceptance of eQSL "confirmations."  

I have recently received requests for confirmations in eQSL from 
a very well known Israeli DXer for QSOs that were made and 
CONFIRMED BY CARD (and in some cases LotW) by other 4X stations. 
I reported that improper solicitation to eQSL with documentation 
of the calls, dates and times but the individual involved has 
not been removed from eQSL or even had his "Authenticity 
Guaranteed" status revoked.  Since the initial report, I have 
even received additional requests for "confirmations" from the 
same user again for qsos made and confirmed WITH OTHER 4X 
stations since I filed the initial complaint with eQSL.  

Any individual or award sponsor who recognizes "confirmations" 
from a system so obviously open to fraud has no credibility in 
my eyes.  Anyone who can't be bothered to provide documentation 
as simple as a photocopy of a license and government issued 
ID is simply not telling the truth about their real reasons 
for not participating in the only credible system of electronic 
confirmation. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Andy GD0TEP
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:34 PM
> To: 'Jim W7RY'; 'RTTY Reflector'
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] CQ to accept eQSL for Awards..
> 
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Some time ago I put a page on my web site explaining the 
> reasons why, but, rather than stir it up, I let it lie, after 
> all, not taking part in the LOTW wasn't affecting me.
> 
> Here's the page if you'd like to know why: 
> http://www.gd0tep.com/lotw.htm
> 
> 73 Andy
> http://www.gd0tep.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim W7RY [mailto:w7ry at arrl.net] 
> Sent: 14 January 2009 13:27
> To: Andy GD0TEP; 'RTTY Reflector'
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] CQ to accept eQSL for Awards..
> 
> Information?  Why is that a problem?
> 
> 73
> Jim W7RY
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy GD0TEP" <andy at gd0tep.com>
> To: "'RTTY Reflector'" <rtty at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] CQ to accept eQSL for Awards..
> 
> 
> > Due to the amount of information LOTW wants from overseas stations, 
> > eQSL
> > is
> > the preferred on line log for me.
> >
> > Hats off to CQ for their forward thinking.. (and eQSL for the small 
> > amount of hoops to jump through)
> >
> > 73 Andy
> > http://www.gd0tep.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] 
> > On Behalf Of Peter Laws
> > Sent: 14 January 2009 01:10
> > To: RTTY Reflector
> > Subject: -----SPAM----- Re: [RTTY] CQ to accept eQSL for Awards..
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:03, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML 
> <ar at dseven.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Anyone know where that is?  I assume eqsl.cc charges a 
> fee, but I'm 
> >>> curious to see what it is.
> >>
> >> There's no fee for AG. Various methods at:
> >>
> >> http://www.eqsl.cc/qslcard/authenticity.cfm
> >
> > Have to make a login first.  Tacky.  I'd like to see all details 
> > before I join.
> >
> >