[RTTY] USOS FIGS
rick darwicki
n6pe at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 5 08:52:34 PDT 2009
f346 8g5343w5348gr
So for standard HAM operation I should set USOS to ON and FIGS to off?
Send (space)599-001-001 in contests and (space)599(space)001(space)001 if asked for a repeat?
Well, it might all be mute when you make as few contacts as I usually do hi hi.
Rick, N6PE
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Remember, E = M * C^2 was not the entire equation.
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> 1. VY2SS Cut Numbers in DL-DX (Tim
> Goeppinger)
> 2. VY2SS Cut Numbers in DL-DX (John
> Schreibmaier)
> 3. Re: VY2SS Cut Numbers in DL-DX (Jerry
> Flanders)
> 4. Re: VY2SS Cut Numbers (Tim
> Goeppinger)
> 5. Re: VY2SS Cut Numbers (Jim W7RY)
> 6. Re: VY2SS Cut Numbers in DL-DX (Kok
> Chen)
> 7. Re: VY2SS Cut Numbers in DL-DX (Kok
> Chen)
> 8. DL4R in DL-DX RTTY Contest
> (Dallmeier, Walter)
> 9. Sogs for DL-DX RTTY contest (Bill,
> W6WRT)
> 10. Re: Logs for DL-DX RTTY contest (Bernd DC3HB)
> 11. DL-DX RTTY Contest - Logs (Bernd DC3HB)
> 12. Re: DL-DX RTTY Contest - Logs (Andrei
> Stchislenok)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:15:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tim Goeppinger <timgep at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [RTTY] VY2SS Cut Numbers in DL-DX
> To: rtty at contesting.com
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> Why is it that everyone else can copy his cut numbers,
> except me
> and N6QQ? I did not receive a decoder
> ring.
>
> He is sending numbers out like WIE WOY
> etc. Everyone just says
> QSL, and goes on with QSO.
>
> Tim K6GEP
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:19:39 -0400
> From: John Schreibmaier <w3mf at ptd.net>
> Subject: [RTTY] VY2SS Cut Numbers in DL-DX
> To: rtty at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <4A4FB95B.8030200 at ptd.net>
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> WIE=283
>
> WOY=296
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:22:52 +0000
> From: Jerry Flanders <jeflanders at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] VY2SS Cut Numbers in DL-DX
> To: Tim Goeppinger <timgep at yahoo.com>
> Cc: rtty at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <20090704202255.AB4EF1B6060C at dayton.contesting.com>
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> In letters case, 283 prints as WIE and 296 prints as WOY.
> GOOGLE [baudot letters figures characters].
>
> Jerry W4UK
>
> At 20:15 7/4/2009, you wrote:
>
> >Why is it that everyone else can copy his cut numbers,
> except me
> >and N6QQ? I did not receive a decoder
> ring.
> >
> >He is sending numbers out like WIE WOY
> etc. Everyone just says
> >QSL, and goes on with QSO.
> >
> >Tim K6GEP
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:41:35 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tim Goeppinger <timgep at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] VY2SS Cut Numbers
> To: rtty at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <281569.87392.qm at web55302.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
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>
> Thanks for all the replies. I will have to use that
> handy Baudot
> chart in Wikipedia next time. Plus, someone emailed
> and suggested
> turning off UOS.
>
> What was weird was VY2SS was sending 599 WIE WIE .
> Don't know
> how that happens.
>
> Tnx for all the replies. Is is just me, or are condix
> really bad?
> I hope this is not a bad open for IARU HF next weekend.
>
> Tim K6GEP
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:01:44 -0700
> From: "Jim W7RY" <w7ry at arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] VY2SS Cut Numbers
> To: "Tim Goeppinger" <timgep at yahoo.com>,
> <rtty at contesting.com>
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> I'm wrong... USOS is what you don't want! You want to
> have upper case
> (figures) when numbers are sent. You don't need a
> chat to translate....
> Simply look at your keyboard...
>
> 599 is TOO. (100 is QPP) Just simply translate to the
> number that is up and
> to the left of the letters you get instead of numbers in
> the report.
>
> 73
> Jim W7RY
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Goeppinger" <timgep at yahoo.com>
> To: <rtty at contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 1:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] VY2SS Cut Numbers
>
>
> >
> > Thanks for all the replies. I will have to use
> that handy Baudot
> > chart in Wikipedia next time. Plus, someone
> emailed and suggested
> > turning off UOS.
> >
> > What was weird was VY2SS was sending 599 WIE WIE
> . Don't know
> > how that happens.
> >
> > Tnx for all the replies. Is is just me, or are
> condix really bad?
> > I hope this is not a bad open for IARU HF next
> weekend.
> >
> > Tim K6GEP
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:10:14 -0700
> From: Kok Chen <chen at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] VY2SS Cut Numbers in DL-DX
> To: RTTY Reflector <rtty at contesting.com>
> Cc: Tim Goeppinger <timgep at yahoo.com>
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> On Jul 4, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Tim Goeppinger wrote:
>
> > Why is it that everyone else can copy his cut numbers,
> except me
> > and N6QQ?
>
> Those are not cut numbers. It is the result of one
> station (receiver)
> using USOS and the other station (sender) not using USOS.
>
> Believe it or not, it is addressed in the "Digital Modes"
> chapter in
> the 2010 ARRL Handbook, but you need to wait for a while
> longer for it
> to be published :-).
>
> In short, if the sender is not using USOS, the LTRS/FIGS
> state is
> unchanged after a space character. So a 599 283 will
> be sent as
> 599<shift>283. However, if the receiver is
> using USOS, then it is
> decoded as the equivalent of
> 599<shift><LTRS>283. Unfortunately,
>
> "283" under LTRS shift is decoded into "WIE," so you would
> print 599
> WIE.
>
> When you are mostly sending numbers, USOS is of dubious
> use. In the
> case above, if the sender had used USOS, he would need to
> send an
> extra FIGS after the space. USOS is useful for
> sending long text
> paragraphs that have mostly LTRS shifted characters -- any
> noise hit
> that causes an erroneous FIGS to be received will be
> corrected the
> next time a <space> is transmitted.
>
> > I did not receive a decoder ring.
>
> Sure you have (unless you are using a Dvorak
> keyboard). But you might
> not realize that you have the decoder ring right at your
> fingertips.
>
> If your contest program does not have a quick way to switch
> the
> display between the two shifts, just look at the numeric
> row of a
> QWERTY keyboard and the row of keys under it. You
> will find that they
> have a direct relationship in Baudot. I.e., Q=1, W=2,
> etc.
>
> Hint: if you send 599-001 under RTTY, it will be received
> correctly by
> both USOS and non-USOS decoders. It may not be
> pretty, but it works
> and requires no extraneous FIGS code to be sent.
>
> 73
> Chen, W7AY
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:17:59 -0700
> From: Kok Chen <chen at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] VY2SS Cut Numbers in DL-DX
> To: RTTY Reflector <rtty at contesting.com>
> Cc: Tim Goeppinger <timgep at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <F846CAB4-3547-47BB-99AB-7F84CC139642 at mac.com>
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>
>
> On Jul 4, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Kok Chen wrote:
>
> > So a 599 283 will be sent as
> > 599<shift>283. However, if the receiver is
> using USOS, then it is
> > decoded as the equivalent of
> 599<shift><LTRS>283.
>
> Oops, I meant <space> instead of <shift>, in
> the above. Sorry.
>
> 73
> Chen, W7AY
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:38:59 +0200
> From: "Dallmeier, Walter" <walter.dallmeier at dl4rck.de>
> Subject: [RTTY] DL4R in DL-DX RTTY Contest
> To: "rtty at contesting.com"
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> Hello,
>
> a hard job the DL-DX RTTY Contest, with strange
> conditions.
> Had to interrupt a couple times cause of heavy
> thunderstorms in my region.
>
> Many thanks to all who give me a call.
>
> 73 de Walter, DL4RCK, DL4R
>
>
> DL-DX RTTY Contest
>
> Callsign : DL4R
> Operators : DL4RCK
> Category : A Single
> OP, 1 Radio
> Club Competition : DRCG
> Power :
> HIGH 600 Watt
> Operating Time : 18:03 h
> Software : RCKLog
> V3.9
>
> BAND QSOs Valid QSOs Points DXCCs
> Distr.
> 10 57
> 57
> 560 19
> 0
> 15 125
> 124 1290
> 40 5
> 20 272
> 270 3139
> 54 13
> 40 144
> 144 1485
> 35 5
> 80 77
> 77
> 734 23
> 1
> --------------------------------------------
> 675
> 672 7208
> 171 24
>
> Final Score: 7208 * (171+24) = 1.405.560
>
> Equipment:
> Yaesu FT-1000MP MV, ACOM1000
> 3 El.SteppIR Yagi 10/15/20m
> BigIR 10-80m, G5RV
>
>
> ?
> 73 de Walter, DL4RCK, DL4R
>
> Walter Dallmeier
> Email: walter.dallmeier at dl4rck.de
>
> http://www.dl4rck.de
> http://www.rckrtty.de
> http://www.rcklog.de
> http://www.drcg.de
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:42:50 -0700
> From: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [RTTY] Sogs for DL-DX RTTY contest
> To: rtty at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <t04155l2ifmnoral0h9pgefpuj5sbvtk20 at 4ax.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> If you are submitting a Cabrillo log for the DL-DX contest,
> please note the
> contest name may be different from what your contest
> program generates.
>
> An example of correct format is at
>
> http://drcg.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=36
>
>
>
> 73, Bill W6WRT
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:04:56 +0200
> From: Bernd DC3HB <dc3hb at freenet.de>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Logs for DL-DX RTTY contest
> To: dezrat1242 at yahoo.com,
> RTTY at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <4A50B308.8090002 at freenet.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> the contest name is not so important.
>
> Important are the CATEGORY: and CALLSIGN: line. See also my
> next posting
> in the reflector.
>
> 73 Bernd, DC3HB
> DL-DX RTTY Contest Manager
>
>
> Please look at
> Bill, W6WRT schrieb:
> > If you are submitting a Cabrillo log for the DL-DX
> contest, please note the
> > contest name may be different from what your contest
> program generates.
> >
> > An example of correct format is at
> >
> > http://drcg.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=36
> >
> >
> >
> > 73, Bill W6WRT
> > _______________________________________________
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> > RTTY at contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/rtty
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:13:25 +0200
> From: Bernd DC3HB <dc3hb at freenet.de>
> Subject: [RTTY] DL-DX RTTY Contest - Logs
> To: RTTY at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <4A50B505.4060600 at freenet.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
>
> Hi folks,
>
> the CATEGORY: and CALLSIGN: line are main important within
> the Cabrillo Log.
>
> Example:
>
> CATEGORY: C
> CALLSIGN: WF9XXX/6
>
> If you have worked from an other area, please specify the
> callsign
> you've used.
>
> In MIXW the CATEGORY is wrong. Please edit the cabrillo log
> with
> "notepad" and add in the CATEGORY: line a space and the
> letter of your
> chosen category.
>
> Example:
>
> CATEGORY: SOAB LOW RTTY (original)
> CATEGORY: SOAB LOW RTTY C (edited)
>
> Please look at http://www.drcg.de and check if your log is received
> and
> if your category is correct.
>
> If the category is shown as "U" (unknown), please edit like
> described
> the CATEGORY: line and resend the log to "logs at drcg.de"
>
> Alternatively, you can specify the category in the subject
> line.
>
> Example: WF9XXX C
>
> You can contact me directly per mail, if there is still
> anything wrong.
>
> CATEGORY: A SO1R AB(all bands)
> CATEGORY: B SO1R AB 6 hours
> CATEGORY: C SO1R AB limited
> antennas
> CATEGORY: D SO1R AB 6h limited
> antennas
> CATEGORY: E MO1R AB
> CATEGORY: F SO2R AB (no limit)
> CATEGORY: G MO2R AB (no limit)
>
> SO1R Single Operator one Radio
> MO1R Multi Operator one Radio
> SO2R Single Operator two Radios (or more)
> MO2R Multi Operator two Radios (or more)
>
> 73 Bernd, DC3HB
> DL-DX RTTY Contest Manager
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:43:09 -0400
> From: Andrei Stchislenok <asnp3d at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] DL-DX RTTY Contest - Logs
> To: Bernd DC3HB <dc3hb at freenet.de>
> Cc: RTTY at contesting.com
> Message-ID:
> <a765bab60907050743m1c294cbdj89834ceb6d2a3830 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> This works, Bernd and All:
>
> I put in the Subject Line NP3D/W2 D
>
> and CATEGORY: D ALL HIGH RTTY (in Cabrillo file)
>
> And I removed all other CATEGORIES in Cabrillo file,
> generated by Writelog;
> they are not neccessary.
>
> Fine business!
>
>
> 2009/7/5, Bernd DC3HB <dc3hb at freenet.de>:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > the CATEGORY: and CALLSIGN: line are main important
> within the Cabrillo
> > Log.
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > CATEGORY: C
> > CALLSIGN: WF9XXX/6
> >
> > If you have worked from an other area, please specify
> the callsign
> > you've used.
> >
> > In MIXW the CATEGORY is wrong. Please edit the
> cabrillo log with
> > "notepad" and add in the CATEGORY: line a space and
> the letter of your
> > chosen category.
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > CATEGORY: SOAB LOW RTTY (original)
> > CATEGORY: SOAB LOW RTTY C (edited)
> >
> > Please look at http://www.drcg.de and check if your log
> is received and
> > if your category is correct.
> >
> > If the category is shown as "U" (unknown), please edit
> like described
> > the CATEGORY: line and resend the log to "logs at
> drcg.de"
> >
> > Alternatively, you can specify the category in the
> subject line.
> >
> > Example: WF9XXX C
> >
> > You can contact me directly per mail, if there is
> still anything wrong.
> >
> > CATEGORY: A SO1R AB(all
> bands)
> > CATEGORY: B SO1R AB 6 hours
> > CATEGORY: C SO1R AB limited
> antennas
> > CATEGORY: D SO1R AB 6h limited
> antennas
> > CATEGORY: E MO1R AB
> > CATEGORY: F SO2R AB (no
> limit)
> > CATEGORY: G MO2R AB (no
> limit)
> >
> > SO1R Single Operator one Radio
> > MO1R Multi Operator one Radio
> > SO2R Single Operator two Radios (or more)
> > MO2R Multi Operator two Radios (or more)
> >
> > 73 Bernd, DC3HB
> > DL-DX RTTY Contest Manager
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> 73's Andrei
> EW1AR-NP3D
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