[RTTY] RTTY Digest, Vol 97, Issue 5

Mon Jan 3 12:37:30 PST 2011

Didn't you take and pass a Technician license. DE mean this is from 
(Station). Not using it is improper procedure

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>   1. Re: [CQ-Contest] [WriteLog]  Suggestions for RTTY RU (KE1JF-Tom)
>   2. N1MM & Hardware Modem (WS7I)
>   3. Re: [CQ-Contest] [WriteLog]  Suggestions for RTTY RU
>      (Jerry Flanders)
>   4. Re: Suggestions for RTTY RU (Jim Reisert AD1C)
>   5. Re: Suggestions for RTTY RU (Bill, W6WRT)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:44:41 -0500
> From: "KE1JF-Tom" <ke1jf at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] [CQ-Contest] [WriteLog]  Suggestions for RTTY RU
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> But for those who use Writelog it saves time for both of us when they get 
> my
> call on the first try.
>
> 73,
> Tom, KE1JF
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> From: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242 at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 9:23 AM
> To: <rtty at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] [CQ-Contest] [WriteLog]  Suggestions for RTTY RU
>
>> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
>>
>> On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 12:50:04 +0000, Doug McDuff <w4ox at bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>As such, can someone please let me know how the use of "DE" before
>>>one's call legitimately causes others to "suffer?"  If there is a
>>>viable reason why it should not be used I definitely would like to
>>>know.
>>
>> REPLY:
>>
>> It's a matter of wasted time. Every character or space takes 167
>> milliseconds, so DE(space) requires .5 seconds. If you work 1000
>> stations during the contest, that wastes 500 seconds. If you call CQ
>> 2000 times during the contest that wastes another 1000 seconds. Put them
>> together and you have wasted 1500 seconds, or 25 minutes.
>>
>> How many extra stations could you have worked in 25 minutes?
>>
>> And that's only for you. Add in the other station's time wasted with his
>> DE(space) and the minutes just add up and up.
>>
>> 73, Bill W6WRT
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 07:13:39 -0800
> From: WS7I <ws7ik7tj at gmail.com>
> Subject: [RTTY] N1MM & Hardware Modem
> To: RTTY Reflector <rtty at contesting.com>
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> Too lazy to ask some where else.  Does anyone have the proper Macro or
> setup to use a hardware modem with N1MM?  For instance the Hal ST-8000
> or 6000 or the like (Dumb Terminal).
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:25:06 -0500
> From: Jerry Flanders <jeflanders at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] [CQ-Contest] [WriteLog]  Suggestions for RTTY RU
> To: Doug McDuff <w4ox at bellsouth.net>,rtty at contesting.com
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> In the exchange: 599 ME DE W1XYZ , you would have to ask for a repeat
> to determine which state he is in. Believe me, it happens.
>
> But maybe there is a genuine benefit to sending DE so that your call
> would be highlighted on an extra screen somewhere. Maybe.
>
> Jerry W4UK
>
> At 07:50 AM 1/3/2011, Doug McDuff wrote:
>>I don't often comment, but this exchange raised my ire.
>>
>>First, I use WriteLog.
>>
>>Second, I don't always use the master.dta file.
>>
>>Third, calls are not always highlighted for me.
>>
>>As such, can someone please let me know how the use of "DE" before
>>one's call legitimately causes others to "suffer?"  If there is a
>>viable reason why it should not be used I definitely would like to
>>know.  If otherwise it causes no real issue, but may assist even one
>>casual operator using WriteLog to pick up my call, I would think that
>>a positive.
>>
>>Thanks, HNY & 73, Doug W4OX
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:03:40 -0700
> From: Jim Reisert AD1C <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Suggestions for RTTY RU
> To: rtty at contesting.com
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> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Bill, W6WRT <dezrat1242 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> It's a matter of wasted time. Every character or space takes 167
>> milliseconds, so DE(space) requires .5 seconds. If you work 1000
>> stations during the contest, that wastes 500 seconds. If you call CQ
>> 2000 times during the contest that wastes another 1000 seconds. Put them
>> together and you have wasted 1500 seconds, or 25 minutes.
>
> I can think of two reasons why sending DE can help (regardless of the
> WriteLog behavior).  Assume that SO2R is not an issue at this point:
>
> 1.  By transmitting more (i.e. sending DE rather than not), you're
> increasing the duty cycle of your transmissions (higher % of key-down
> time).  This increases the chance that someone tuning by will hear a
> signal and stop to find out who it is.
>
> 2.  RTTY Skimmer can't be far off.  I believe the software looks for a
> DE preceding the callsign of the transmitting station, otherwise that
> station won't be spotted.  So send DE if you want to be found.
>
> 73 - Jim AD1C
>
> -- 
> Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.us
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:52:39 -0800
> From: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Suggestions for RTTY RU
> To: rtty at contesting.com
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> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
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> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:03:40 -0700, Jim Reisert AD1C
> <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>>1.  By transmitting more (i.e. sending DE rather than not), you're
>>increasing the duty cycle of your transmissions (higher % of key-down
>>time).  This increases the chance that someone tuning by will hear a
>>signal and stop to find out who it is.
>
> REPLY:
>
> Good point, but I believe the critical thing here is not how long the
> transmission is but rather how long the listening period is. I believe
> the listening period between CQs should be fairly short for just the
> reason you state.
>
> This is one of those things one can not really prove, IMO. It's more of
> an instinctive feel for how long is long enough or too short.
>
> 73, Bill W6WRT
>
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