[RTTY] Dash vs space Etc.

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> the only problems I had in this contest and other contests on
> receive were the letters sent instead of numbers (either dashed or
> spaced) I received them fine...and the only time I had to ask for a
> repeat was from the garbled mass of letters that were sent for the
> Serial No. number........and when asked for a repeat...the numbers
> were sent instead of the letters...and it came through fine...again
> either dashed or spaced....so if numbers were sent first (either
> dashed or spaced) I would have saved more time with that rather than
> worrying about if my contact was using a --wait for it---a dash or a
> space in the exchange....

You miss the entire point - *nobody* is sending letters instead of
numbers in their exchanges.  The letters you receive are due to a
receiving error on your end - you missed a FIGS code (due to noise,
fade, QRM, etc.) and your decoder printed the LTRS case rather than
in FIGS case.

There is a slight chance that the other station did not enable USOS
(unshift on space) in his transmit software and thus is not sending
the FIGS character before the numbers - but that is not likely if
you copy the repeats correctly.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2/11/2013 5:53 PM, W2GR at aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Because I am sort of a neophyte in regards to RTTY and I guess not a
> "real" RTTY operator according to Chen......why are the letters sent anyway from
> some ops?....programs in use from days of old?....the only problems I had
> in  this contest and other contests on receive were the letters sent instead
> of  numbers (either dashed or spaced) I received them fine...and the only
> time I had  to ask for a repeat was from the garbled mass of letters that were
> sent for the  Serial No. number........and when asked for a repeat...the
> numbers were sent  instead of the letters...and it came through fine...again
> either dashed or  spaced....so if numbers were sent first (either dashed or
> spaced) I would have  saved more time with that rather than worrying about if
> my contact was using a  --wait for it---a dash or a space in the
> exchange....
>
> I tried the shift/click route but the numbers ended up in the 599 line of
> Writelog. So I guess if I want to decode the exchange with SH/cl I have to
> tab over to the number line and do it?...and hope I click on the right mass
> of  letters .....but seems kinda slow when I can just click on the ser. no
> and it  goes where I need it....or maybe I dont know what I am doing as a
> neophyte?....
>
> Please don't spank me for asking stupid questions but there are no  RTTY
> elmers around here that I know of and I am picking this stuff  up on my own
> and finding I like RTTY a lot ....and having a lot of fun  with it...
>
> Maybe someday I will be a "real" RTTY operator...whatever that is.
>
> Mike W2GR
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> In a message dated 2/10/2013 7:19:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> dezrat1242 at yahoo.com writes:
>
>
> ORIGINAL  MESSAGE:
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:45:55 -0800, W7AY  wrote:
>
>>
>> So, if you see "599 QWE 123" (and assuming one is  ignorant of the QWERTY
> mapping), that will still trigger a request for a  repeat.
>
> REPLY:
> Here's where we part company. If I see 599 QWE 123  I will not ask for a
> repeat. I will click on the 123 just as if the sender  had sent only that.
>
> Is it perfect? No. Is it close enough? Yes.
>
> Bill, W6WRT
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