[RTTY] Debate

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Jeff,

Don't fret about it ... it's the "British" way just like insisting
that someone operating entirely wthin the rules of their own licensing
authority use a different callsign when their legally issued call does
not match some third party's understanding of the present purpose of
call areas.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2/18/2013 3:47 PM, Jeff Stai wrote:
> hi John - I do get that. Let me put it another way...
>
> I can decide to operate in the BARTG Expert class for the Sprint. I can
> operate 1 or more radios and change bands whenever I want. I am not
> burdened by any band change rule in this case.
>
> Or, I can decide to operate in the SOAB class. Now I must take care not to
> change bands too often. This rule burdens the entrant who chooses to
> operate SOAB to follow the band change rule.
>
> Or, I can just decide to get on the air and make contacts. I don't want to
> worry about band changes so I just S&P and chase spots. In this case my
> rule-ignoring behavior could inadvertently land me in the Expert class
> because of band changes.
>
> Notice how the operators who don't want to to operate Expert are the ones
> who have an extra rule to follow.
>
> If I then extend the concept of a band change rule to distinguish whether a
> station is SOnR or not, you are again putting the onus on the one-radio
> station - that does not want to be considered SOnR - to follow a rule.
>
> That's the rub. - jeff wk6i
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:56 AM, John GW4SKA <ska at bartg.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> **
>> The BARTG Expert rules were intended to 'burden' the minority of SOAB
>> stations running SO2R. It simply puts them all together in a class with an
>> 'expert' label. This leaves the SO1R majority (the 'casual' contesters) in
>> their own class without unfair opposition.
>>
>> Rules that cannot be enforced are not worth having. It's impossible for a
>> contest manager to know how many radios are in use ... but the bandchanges
>> can be seen in a log ... and SO2R is mostly about bandchanging. That's why
>> BARTG don't have classes split into SO1R, SO2R, QRP, low power, high power
>> etc.
>>
>> John GW4SKA
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeff Stai" <wk6i.jeff at gmail.com>
>> To: "John Merrill" <johnn1jm at gmail.com>
>> Cc: <rtty at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Debate
>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:20 PM, John Merrill <johnn1jm at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some contests do have an expert category.
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed. However, taking the BARTG Sprint Expert Class as an example, the
>>> burden of following the rule is actually on the non-Expert. Experts can
>>> change bands at will but regular SOAB "...may only change band once in
>> any
>>> 5 minute period."
>>>
>>> The trick of defining an SOnR class is to define it in a way that does
>> not
>>> burden the casual contester. I think that's why you haven't seen it yet
>> in
>>> more contests.
>>>
>>> - jeff wk6i
>>
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