[RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo

[Larry]

Actually, I suspect the faster you can populate the leader board you might 
actually reduce a few dupes but that might work only for those that look at 
the leader board.  Dupes are going to occur regardless of the leader board. 
I was listening to SSB on 15M and the operator said to several "Thanks for 
the dupe contact." Some of these stations worked FT5 twice in less than 30 
minutes - same band, same mode. Why? Too many times an operator at the DX 
station incorrectly logs the wrong call so people make insurance contacts. 
That's not a slam on the DX operator who is doing the best he/she can 
without much cooperation from many in the calling masses.  It can be 
incredibly difficult on the DX side trying to get calls correctly. Not too 
bad if you 40db over but if you are light copy it is tough.

Realistically, deleting leader boards is not going to stop anyone from 
trying to work all or as many  of the slots as possible.  Reducing DXCC or 
WAZ to only mixed awards (no band or mode distinctions) might have an 
effect.

73, Larry  W6NWS

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dick Flanagan
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 8:11 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo

I think the leader board should not be populated until after a
DXpedition has finished.

--
Dick Flanagan K7VC
dick at k7vc.com

On 2/2/2014 2:46 PM, WILLIAM MARX wrote:
> I am of the same school but it probably enhances the participation. I want 
> one solid Q on a rare one. I think having a Leader board defeats the 
> purpose of a DXPedition to a very rare entity...
> Bill Marx W2CQ
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>   From: Ron Kolarik <rkolarik at neb.rr.com>
> To: Phil Sussman <psussman at pactor.com>; Charles Morrison 
> <cmorrison at lusfiber.net>
> Cc: rtty at contesting.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2014 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
>
> It's called "leader board bingo". Some of us would be happy with
> one mode/band some feel the need for all bands/modes plus insurance
> contacts......bragging rights at Visalia.
>
> Ron
> K0IDT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Sussman" <psussman at pactor.com>
> To: "Charles Morrison" <cmorrison at lusfiber.net>
> Cc: <rtty at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
>
>
>> I agree with Charlie, except for two points:
>>
>> First, this syndrome does not only affect RTTY operators alone, but
>> it has been 'trickled' into the RTTY gentlemen's community. Some
>> attribute this lack of discipline to removing CW from Ham Testing.
>> Others claim it's the moral decay of our society in general. Perhaps
>> it is a lack of role models.
>>
>> Second, comparing hams to animals in a zoo does a serious disservice
>> to the animals. Zoo animals generally behave naturally, that is, as
>> nature intended. No so with Ham operators or RTTY operators. Zoo
>> animals don't know any better, but certainly ham operators should!
>>
>> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>>
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