[RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo

[Larry]

Take away the band DXCCs , leave only the Mixed DXCC, and get rid of 
Challenge and 5BDXCC and you reduce the scheme to a single QSO per entity. 
That's what you want isn't it?  That ignores, of course, any selfish desire 
that I might have to work every entity on every band and every permissible 
mode independent of any award offering.  If we retain DXCC Mixed, Phone, and 
CW then I need only  two QSOs but if I can only work them once per 
DXpedition I get to wait until the next DXpedition (5, 10, 15 years?) to get 
the other mode I didn't work this time? Not very realistic.

I have met operators that probably couldn't work a DXpedition with stacked 
arrays and legal limit power. Why? Mostly they are not paying attention to 
the details. The cluster can help them locate the DX on the bands and will 
help a bit with knowing whether there is propagation to the DX. Many have no 
clue as to whether they need to point their antenna (assuming that it can be 
pointed) short path or long path. Some can't find where the DX is listening. 
Some can't time their calls so that the DX might hear them. Many do not seem 
to recognize their own call. And on, and on, and on. Limiting others to a 
single QSO is probably not going to help these operators.

With some skill and determination most operators can work the DXpeditions 
even with modest antennas and limited power on multiple slots if they so 
chose. Harder may be getting the time to make the QSOs in the slot the 
operator desires that coincides with a time the operator can devote to 
trying work to the DX given the other responsibilities the operator may 
have. In this category the operator may not be a first week candidate to 
work the DX. If being among the first to work the DX is important then the 
big antennas and legal power may be a necessity along with more than minimal 
skill. Why should it matter whether I am the first or last to work the DX in 
a given slot? It does to some I know.

73, Larry  W6NWS
-----Original Message----- 
From: Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 9:39 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo


> Reducing DXCC or WAZ to only mixed awards (no band or mode
> distinctions) might have an effect.

DXCC has no award for working all bands on all modes.  DXCC
Challenge is one per band regardless of mode (CW, Phone/Image,
or Digital).  DXCC CW, DXCC Phone, DXCC Digital are once on
the mode - a good operator can cover all of them with 10 QSOs
make it 12 if the first 10 are all one mode.

5BWAZ is mixed mode only, 160 and 6M WAZ are mixed mode only.
The other single band WAZ are single mode - I suppose someone
could try to work all single band awards on each mode but it
is still not likely than anyone would need a top 50 DXpedition
to fill all the slots for WAZ CW, WAZ SSB and WAZ RTTY in a given
zone - most zones have some relatively common DX located in them.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2/2/2014 9:17 PM, Larry wrote:
> Actually, I suspect the faster you can populate the leader board you
> might actually reduce a few dupes but that might work only for those
> that look at the leader board.  Dupes are going to occur regardless of
> the leader board. I was listening to SSB on 15M and the operator said to
> several "Thanks for the dupe contact." Some of these stations worked FT5
> twice in less than 30 minutes - same band, same mode. Why? Too many
> times an operator at the DX station incorrectly logs the wrong call so
> people make insurance contacts. That's not a slam on the DX operator who
> is doing the best he/she can without much cooperation from many in the
> calling masses.  It can be incredibly difficult on the DX side trying to
> get calls correctly. Not too bad if you 40db over but if you are light
> copy it is tough.
>
> Realistically, deleting leader boards is not going to stop anyone from
> trying to work all or as many  of the slots as possible.  Reducing DXCC
> or WAZ to only mixed awards (no band or mode distinctions) might have an
> effect.
>
> 73, Larry  W6NWS
>
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