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[Phil Sussman]

Kai,

It's amazing to me how some people are so deceived by Facebook
and never realize that:

1. The wording of their 'terms' is deceptive and offers a false
    sense of security.

and

2. Beyond what they 'print' there is an 'actuality' of what they
    actually do which may (or may not) comply with what they print.

Thanks for explaining this in a way that I actually overlooked, but
certainly is true !!

73 de Phil - N8PS

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Quoting Kai <k.siwiak at ieee.org>:

> Folks,
> "granting Facebook a non-exclusive use of your content." is the  
> definition of " "I discovered every bit of info they glean is theirs  
> -- never to be destroyed..."
> As a "test", see if you can "ungrant" your permission.
>
> -73
> Kai, KE4PT
>
> On 2/23/2014 9:53 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
>> I'm sorry but the following statement is blatantly wrong "I  
>> discovered every bit of info they glean is theirs -- never to be  
>> destroyed..."
>>
>> Please read the Facebook Terns of Use - Statement of Rights and  
>> Responsibilities. Specifically section 2 regarding your  
>> Intellectual Property rights.
>>
>> *"2. Sharing Your Content and Information*
>>
>> You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook,  
>> and you can control how it is shared through your privacy  
>> <https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=privacy> and application  
>> settings <https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=applications>."
>>
>> Within Section 2 are five statements that provide additional  
>> information, including granting Facebook a non-exclusive use of  
>> your content. This temporary license ends when you delete your  
>> content. They "own" nothing. They have permission from you to  
>> "use". Subsection 2 also describes the purging details and that  
>> backup copies within their system will eventually purge and are not  
>> available to others.
>>
>> Don't make stuff up and try to pass it off as "authentic"!
>>
>> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> On 2/23/2014 8:19 PM, Phil Sussman wrote:
>>> Regrettably I agree with John. I say regrettably because I
>>> have unfortunately learned the 'price' of dealing with
>>> Facebook. They reap and harvest EVERYTHING and I mean
>>> EVERYTHING. Talk about 'big-brother', Facebook puts that
>>> analogy to shame. I discovered every bit of info they glean
>>> is theirs -- never to be destroyed -- just surrendered to the
>>> highest bidder -- or rather EVERY bidder.
>>>
>>> Caution: Woe to any college student on Facebook seeking a job.
>>> Boxers or briefs -- they know -- and much much more.
>>>
>>> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>>>
>>> PS. I was cloned there by a douple-ganger with the same name
>>> or using mine.
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting John Becker <w0jab at big-river.net>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/23/2014 3:57 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
>>>>> Facebook, on the other hand, is equivalent to a 72" HDTV with  
>>>>> color, surround sound, video, and instant connections to your  
>>>>> friends and family. YOU control who gets to "see your stuff",  
>>>>> not some invisible reflector moderator.
>>>> If you own a business the insurance company may ask if you use  
>>>> facebook. Or at
>>>> least my wife's did and said they would not cover. Had to do with  
>>>> facebook's
>>>> habit or trying to read as much as they can get from your system  
>>>> (computer)
>>>> Was more then enough for me not to use it. Besides being on a  
>>>> satellite internet
>>>> system I have got to watch the daily bandwidth usage.
>>>>
>>>> Can you just guess the outcome if all the her customer credit  
>>>> card information got out.
>>>> That would be lawsuit never ending. You use it if you like, not me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John, W0JAB
>>>> Louisiana, Missouri
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