[RTTY] Comments by K4SBZ.. (JT65/JT9)

[Al Kozakiewicz]

True story:

During the CQ WW or WPX phone contest last year,  a guy starts calling CQ DX on, maybe, 28.600.  Now, the frequency is already occupied by a non-US station running in the contest and there is a small pileup.  Several hams point out to him that the frequency is in use.  At which point the guy gets all huffy and starts complaining about how all the Extras sure are setting a bad example for the poor Generals seeing as how they were contesting on the DX calling frequency.  Forget for a minute, if you will, whether or not a proper protocol is being followed w/r/t operation on or around a "calling frequency".

It's an farging DX contest weekend for crying out loud!  There are literally hundreds of DX stations within earshot all over the band, and 10m is huge by HF standards.  How hard was it to work some DX???

There are only two explanations for this sort of behavior.  Stupidity (I cannot in good conscience use the word ignorance) or orneriness. Neither is especially flattering.

Al
AB2ZY

-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Blaine
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:19 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Comments by K4SBZ.. (JT65/JT9)

I really don't understand the guys complaining about contest activity. 
Especially when we are talking about traditions that have run for decades.

The fact is that there is generally NOT a contest of the same mode every weekend.  Yet the way guys talk you would think they only can operate on the weekend and those darn (your choice of mode) contesters are ruining the bands for the other ops.

If you want to chase CW DX and FD is on, then that weekend life is going to be tough.  If you want to chase JT69 or PSK when one of the Big 3 RTTY contests are on, life is going to be tough.  If you want to have your local rag chew net on 40m when a SSB contest is on, life is going to be tough.

They are a lot like the Macy's parade or any other traditional event.  If you insist on crossing THAT street on THAT day at THAT time, life is going to be tough.

But thanks to the magic of the contest calendar and the internet (or QST or a lot of other publications), it's easy to plan around these events and avoid stress!

73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Cooper
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 4:13 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Comments by K4SBZ.. (JT65/JT9)

Stan and the group,

I have to disagree with your statement about us being of a limited mindset!

My opinion is that most RTTY users will have tried, and probably use, many of the digital modes going.
Many of us have tried most of them that have been created, and some have lasted, some have not.

By contrast, many PSK users have NEVER tried anything else, and to an extent, this also applies to users of JT65.

I have worked many of the members of this forum on PSK, JT65, and other exotic modes, (including CW!), as many RTTY ops have been using RTTY since the days of the Creed, and have gradually changed over to computer based RTTY.
Many, and this incudes me, used various TU's that allowed us to try all of the then-current digital modes such as PacTor, AmTor and RTTY.
In the 80's, I had QSO's on all of these modes.
Some of that changed when MMTTY came along, as it was simply so much better at decoding RTTY.
We are also used to PC's and interfacing, so that is one reason why you will have better QSO match rates on LoTW with RTTY ops.

If you look at the cluster for any length of time, you will see loads of PSK spots marked as RTTY, simply because a lot of these folk simply do not understand the difference.
I've even seen JT65A marked as RTTY.

My main bug is why the JT65 group are so intent on hammering us RTTY ops during a contest, yet appear so quiet when there is a CW contest on.

HNY all

Phil GU0SUP


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