[RTTY] ARRL willful interference

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Paul,

 > They had an exception written into the rules so they could provide
 > these bulletins.

You are dead wrong.  The rule written by the FCC was not to allow ARRL
to provide bulletins - *any amateur* may broadcast bulletins of interest
to amateurs.  The rule allows ARRL to use *paid operators* to provide
that service - it does not relieve them of the duty to avoid intentional
or willful interference.

As to Chen's point about the NCDXF beacons ... the beacons operate on
14.100 24x7x365.  As such, they were there first and anyone else on
that frequency is guilty of willful interference.  Any amateur with
even the least bit of knowledge should know that the NCDXF beacons are
there *even if they can't hear them.*

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-06-10 12:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> You are one of about two people in the world complaining about the
> ARRL's bulletin service.
>
> They had an exception written into the rules so they could provide
> these bulletins. The FCC is obviously aware of the fact that they
> transmit these bulletins at set times and frequencies and has never
> indicated that they had any problems with how the ARRL operates their
> bulletins.
>
> And, yes, the ARRL gets special recognition from the FCC as the
> national organization for the amateur radio service in this country.
> Try submitting a request to get W100MU assigned to you and see where
> that goes if you don't believe me.
>
> Give it a rest.
>
> 73.
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:23 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:
>> The person/station/operator using the frequency has every right to continue
>> to use that frequency except in the case of an emergency.
>>
>> The ARRL and W1AW willfully interfered with you.  Plain and simple and a
>> clear violation of:
>>
>> Section 97.101(d) of the Commission's Rules prohibits amateur operators from
>> willfully or maliciously interfering with or causing interference to any
>> radio communication or signal. 47 C.F.R. § 97.101(d).
>>
>> Most of us will just move along because we are courteous operators and act
>> like gentlemen.  We do not fire up our transmitters without listening first.
>> Should the the ARRL operate it's station in accordance with the rules and
>> all the operating guides it has published?  I think so.
>>
>> If it was one of us interfering with you Tom would you have been so happy
>> and eager to move?
>>
>> I don't understand why some feel the ARRL has a unicorn type mythical power
>> that it is any better or knows what it better for us.  Lets stand behind
>> them when they do it right.  Don't blindly follow anyone or any club or
>> organization.  They all have their own motives and reasons for things that
>> might not be completely obvious on a first glance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike W0MU
>>
>> On 6/10/2014 8:41 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014-06-10 9:41 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mike, you may not have interpreted what I wrote to you in the manner
>>>> I intended. I've been on 3581.5kc RTTY when W1AW CW bulletin came up
>>>> underneath me on a weeknight. I did the reasonable thing and QSY'ed.
>>>> If I had stuck around on 3581.5, I would've been the one QRM'ing
>>>> W1AW, not the other way around.
>>>
>>>
>>> No Tim, you were the one being interfered with by W1AW - you were on
>>> the frequency when they started operating.  That you chose to QSY and
>>> not engage in a frequency fight was the gentlemanly thing to do in
>>> spite of the intentional interference from W1AW.
>>>
>>> Nobody owns any frequency and, absent an emergency that presents an
>>> imminent threat to life, nobody has the right to commandeer any
>>> frequency that is "in use".
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>     ... Joe, W4TV
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014-06-10 9:41 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mike W0MU writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had a number of other people tell me that they have had to leave
>>>>> a
>>>>> frequency because W1AW fired up on top of them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike, you may not have interpreted what I wrote to you in the manner I
>>>> intended. I've been on 3581.5kc RTTY when W1AW CW bulletin came up
>>>> underneath me on a weeknight. I did the reasonable thing and QSY'ed. If I
>>>> had stuck around on 3581.5, I would've been the one QRM'ing W1AW, not the
>>>> other way around.
>>>>
>>>> I made that comment to you in the interest of helping you improve your
>>>> arguments against RM-11708. But instead you are just being ridiculous.
>>>> ARRL
>>>> bulletins and code practice are very important to ham radio worldwide,
>>>> and
>>>> it is important that they continue and not be QRM'ed. In fact I would
>>>> like
>>>> to see published RTTY bandplans show a hole carved to allow W1AW's
>>>> long-standing bulletin frequencies at least on weekdays/weeknights.
>>>>
>>>> There are good reasons to be aware of ARRL bulletin frequencies and
>>>> schedules. This valuable public service, used by hams around the world
>>>> and
>>>> provided by the ARRL, should not have anything to do with arguments
>>>> against
>>>> RM-11708.
>>>>
>>>> Tim N3QE
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