[RTTY] What is this auto mode that QRM's me?
Gary AL9A
al9a at mtaonline.net
Mon Mar 31 01:25:27 EDT 2014
And shouldn't the two ARRL directors who are shepherding this fiasco through
the paper mill be disqualified from voting? Doesn't ARRL have any policy
guidelines on "conflict of interest"? Or doesn't it apply in cases
involving serious bucks to be made?
73,
Gary AL9A
-----Original Message-----
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett
Sent: March 30, 2014 12:00 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] What is this auto mode that QRM's me?
Follow the money... Who stands to gain from this and how. I don't know
but I bet the results might be enlightening.
Mike W0MU
On 3/30/2014 1:51 PM, Gary - NC3Z wrote:
> I guess the ARRL doesn’t take much stock in their "Considerate Operator
> Guide" http://www.arrl.org/considerate-operator
>
>
> Gary Mitchelson
> NC3Z Davidsonville, MD FM18
> http://www.mitchelson.org/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe Subich,
> W4TV
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 14:53
> To: rtty at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] What is this auto mode that QRM's me?
>
>
> Does anyone else see something inherently *wrong* about stinklink
> monopolizing every frequency from 3565 - 3600 KHz? And now ARRL wants to
> allow those channels to expand to nearly 3 KHz each!
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 3/30/2014 1:14 PM, Terry wrote:
>> Here is a list of 80 meter Winlink frequencies:
>>
>>
>> VE1YZ 3,565.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
>> VE1YZ 3,565.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> WG3G 3,569.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> CIW930 3,571.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
>> VE7SCC 3,571.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
>> WB9FHP 3,575.500 KHz WINMOR 500
>> N9LOH 3,579.200 KHz WINMOR 500
>> N4MEH 3,580.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> AB7AA 3,582.500 KHz Pactor 1,2
>> AB7AA 3,582.500 KHz WINMOR 500
>> W5SEG 3,584.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> W5SEG 3,584.500 KHz WINMOR 500
>> RT9K 3,585.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
>> RT9K 3,585.000 KHz Robust Packet
>> K9BBS 3,585.000 KHz WINMOR 500
>> KB5OZE 3,585.000 KHz WINMOR 500
>> RT9K 3,585.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> KF7RSF 3,585.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> SL5ZXP 3,585.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
>> KF7RSF 3,585.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> SL5ZXP 3,585.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> K9BBS 3,586.500 KHz Pactor 1,2
>> K7EK 3,587.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> K7EK 3,587.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> N0IA 3,587.200 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> N0IA 3,587.200 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> WA6TVD 3,587.500 KHz Pactor 3
>> WA6TVD 3,587.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> K5AEA 3,588.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> K5AEA 3,588.500 KHz Robust Packet
>> K5AEA 3,588.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> AB7AA 3,589.000 KHz Pactor 3
>> KK5AN 3,589.000 KHz Pactor 3
>> KQ4ET 3,589.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> N7YRT 3,589.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> WL7CVG 3,589.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> AB7AA 3,589.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> KQ4ET 3,589.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> WA7ODN 3,589.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> KN6KB 3,590.000 KHz Pactor 3
>> N0IA 3,590.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> V51PJ 3,590.000 KHz Pactor 1,2
>> W0MAC 3,590.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> KN6KB 3,590.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> N0IA 3,590.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> W0MAC 3,590.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> W6SH 3,590.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> CIW931 3,590.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> K7ODN 3,591.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> N5SSH 3,591.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> XE2BNC 3,591.700 KHz Pactor 3,4
>> XE2BNC 3,591.700 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> KE7XO 3,592.000 KHz Pactor 3
>> KR4MA 3,592.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> W0MAC 3,592.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> WE9COM 3,592.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> KE7XO 3,592.000 KHz Robust Packet
>> KE7XO 3,592.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> W0MAC 3,592.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> W7ODN 3,593.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> WX4J 3,593.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> WX4J 3,593.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> K0SI 3,594.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> KE5VRO 3,594.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> KA7HRC 3,595.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> KB5HCD 3,595.000 KHz Pactor 3
>> KC4TVO 3,595.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> KL7EDK 3,595.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> LA3F 3,595.000 KHz Pactor 1,2
>> KL7EDK 3,595.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> LA3F 3,595.000 KHz WINMOR 500
>> N5TW 3,596.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> N5TW 3,596.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> K1SGA 3,596.020 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> OH2AV 3,596.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> K7DAV 3,597.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> K7DAV 3,597.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> DB0ZAV 3,597.500 KHz Pactor 1,2
>> DB0ZAV 3,597.500 KHz WINMOR 500
>> LA3F 3,597.900 KHz Pactor 1,2
>> W1EO 3,597.900 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
>> LA3F 3,597.900 KHz WINMOR 500
>> W1EO 3,597.900 KHz WINMOR 1600
>> W4CPG 3,598.000 KHz Robust Packet
>> OE6XPD 3,598.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
>> Flanders
>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:32 AM
>> To: Shoppa, Tim; rtty at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] What is this auto mode that QRM's me?
>>
>> At 12:20 PM 3/30/2014, you wrote:
>>> With all the Winlink and RM-11708 talk going around, I have a question.
>>>
>>> When I contest especially on 80M RTTY band (also occurs other bands,
>>> but most frequently on 80M RTTY band, may be weighted by the fact
>>> that I like 80M the most!) I am often QRM'ed by some sort of
>>> automatic digital mode.
>>>
>>> This auto mode is characterized by two sides chirping at each other,
>>> one side typically is "longer" than the other. The short chirps are
>>> just a second or so, the longer chirps are several seconds.
>>>
>>> Bandwidth is similar or broader than RTTY but it is not RTTY.
>>>
>>> I think this is some sort of ALE mode or HF packet, but don't know if
>>> it's Winlink.
>>>
>>> It most frequently comes up on me after I've been running on a freq
>>> for
>>> 10 or 20 minutes or even more.
>>>
>>> I know that this auto mode "sees me" because if I pause, it switches
>> >from "short chirps", to the long chirps. So clearly this auto mode
>>> sees me on the frequency and knows the frequency isn't clear, but is
>>> trying to carry on nevertheless.
>>>
>>> Does this sound familiar? I am on east coast US and I'm pretty sure
>>> this is some sort of ALE mode (unsure which one) and I'm 100% sure
>>> there's no human at either end.
>>>
>>> Tim N3QE
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>> A guess: The long chirps when you pause probably means that it could
>> not transfer data while you were txing, but took advantage of your
>> stopping to transfer it. I suspect it would give up after a few
>> minutes if it could not complete the transfer, but i might be wrong.
>> If the rx station doesn't receive valid data, it requests a repeat
>> (the short chirp). the tx station then tries again with the long
>> chirp. When you went qrt, the rx station received all OK, and stopped
> requesting repeats.
>> Don't know what mode.
>>
>> Jerry W4UK
>>
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