[RTTY] Fwd: [RBN-OPS] RTTY Skimmer - non CQ spots

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> The solutions proposed are challenging because adding a space and a
> carriage return take X milliseconds to the transmission and that is
> important to some contesters.

The answering station - in the example N7AT - should be using CR/LF
at the start of his call.  Without CR/LF the response can and often
is buried in in noise at the end of the line and can be missed by
both operators not using "known calls" lists or by those using such
assistance if the calling station's call is not included in the lists.

Including the CR/LF places the calling station at the left margin of
the receive display where it the call sign in easily to see (and
click) free of any clutter.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/30/2015 5:05 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> Sorry to cross post but thought this message would be of current, strong
> interestto skimmertalk and rtty contesting
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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> Subject:     [RBN-OPS] RTTY Skimmer - non CQ spots
> Date:     29 Sep 2015 19:23:00 -0700
> From:     wb0o at yahoo.com [RBN-OPS] <RBN-OPS at yahoogroups.com>
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> Some frustrations on the RTTY reflectors and my local club Arizona
> Outlaws Contest reflector about lots of non-CQ spots in the RTTY CQWW
> last weekend. I posted a response on the AZ reflector hopefully to help
> some big scorers (AA7A, N7AT, KY7M ) understand the issues and address
> some specific concerns they had:
>
>
> The RTTY skimmer decoding process is an algorithm built into the
> product. The
> program is downloaded and turned on. Some parameters are operator
> defined, such
> as how many khz to skim on any given band, but the algorithm is not
> operator
> defined.
>
> On the various Skimmer reflectors, the problem has been figured out. The
> software solution is elusive. There are practical solutions though.
>
> The RTTY Skimmer will spot a call after a CQ or a QRZ? The problem is many
> RTTY ops end their CQ call with a CQ:
>
> CQ WW CQ WW AA7A AA7A CQ
>
> If the CQing op puts a space and carriage return after the CQ then all is
> good with the Skimmer, and AA7A gets spotted, the caller N7AT doesn't:
>
> CQ WW CQ WW AA7A AA7A CQ
>
> N7AT N7AT N7AT
>
> If the CQing op does not put a space and carriage return after the CQ, or
> the caller doesn't put a carriage return in front of his call then the
> Skimmer can't tell who is calling CQ:
>
> CQ WW CQ WW AA7A AA7A CQ N7AT N7AT N7AT
>
> So the cause seems obvious.
>
> The solutions are that either the CQing station or the calling station or
> both need to use the carriage return.
>
> The solutions proposed are challenging because adding a space and a
> carriage
> return take X milliseconds to the transmission and that is important to
> some
> contesters. Some CW ops used to ID every 10 minutes but that behaviour has
> recently been discouraged at a contest organizer level.
>
> But it will be very challenging to write a RTTY decoding algorithm that
> will
> be able to figure out CQ WW CQ WW AA7A AA7A CQ N7AT N7AT N7AT.
>
> Another proposed solution is that N1MM+ and other programs will eventually
> incorporate space and carriage return prompts into the RTTY preset buttons.
> The same as the program booting up into SO assisted for CW contests.
>
> So there are still bugs in a 9 month old program v1.0, but it still makes
> the contest more fun for many ops, who may not have gotten on otherwise.
>
> 73, Bill KO7SS
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