[RTTY] Help--GRITTY and N1MM+

Mon Apr 4 04:25:30 EDT 2016

TU Rick.

How many times I wrote thanks to you?
Not anyway enough, not to you and not to the whole N1MM(+) Dev. Team.
And not anyway enough also to all the other peoples that so kindly 
devoted theirs time and efforts to the whole community.
I mean all of those - remembered and not - that went developing ideas 
and writing code for all of us.

Also, Rick you'd enlarged my view, I am not a code writer and your 
answer went cleverly on effective points.
Relieving my poor ideas with your clever knowledge. Now I have much more 
clear what's inside and to witch side.

On my own I could wait to see what will be happening over time.
I wouldn't like to loose any decoding ability, MMTTY, 2Tone and GRITTY 
as far as I have some screen real estate.
Giving to all of us the better, as MMTTY, integration of the others 
decoders is a really god thing.
Differentiating methods is often a key to better have meaning data, isn't?

I hope that also David and Alex could somewhat help in the never ending process.
They have already seen the demonstration that their babies are much needed for a whole group of us.
Not to forgot Chen and his great work under the hood, here him is the last name but not for sure the least.
That's what David and other sad many times. Lately I was reading some notes from FLDIGI RTTY code that is referencing Chen works and support ...

What to say more? I should wait a bright decoding future having fun with RTTY on air in the meantime.

       TU Rick and others.

           73 de iw1ayd Salvo

PS if just David and Alex would be so kind to add an automated log, on set is forever until set it off ... I know, I know, ;-) file versioning etc. etc.

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 21:30:38 -0400
From: Rick Ellison<rellison at twcny.rr.com>
To:<rtty at contesting.com>
Cc:<N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [RTTY]  Help--GRITTY and N1MM+
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Over the weekend I was able to fix the focus issue. Now when clicking on a
call or exchange in Gritty the focus does get returned back to the entry
window. Gritty does not like to give up focus and this was done by using a
couple of API calls. One other change to the Gritty implementation is when
you are not using the attached windows the RX window caption and menu now
float above the Gritty window where ever it is placed. This was done to
provide the users that complained a way to get to the setup menu. If you
don't want to see the floating window just minimize it.

" I.E. it's difficult to think that the already written data inside the
GRITTY screen could take place  into the DI window of N1MM+."
I spent 2 weeks trying to interface a solution for the Gritty text to be
placed in the Digital Window. But could not come up with a workable solution
where the text in the digital window was not lagged by more than 30 seconds.
You can see this same lag I am talking about in the implementation of Gritty
into Logger32 that Bob just completed. The delayed text is present after a
little while of decoding. I came to the conclusion that just having the user
click in the Gritty window and have that window open for the users to use
it.

  I did not get a chance this weekend to see what parsing needs to be done
with exchanges that are clicked. In my testing previously I had never see
more than one exchange element selected and sent to the Entry window. I will
do more testing of this as I get a chance.

" On the same side it is not useful that N1MM+ leave an unused DI added
decoder space when GRITTY is in use."
This happens when using the attached RX windows and is something I need to
rework. The way the Attached rx windows are loaded it makes no difference
what engine is loaded. I will need to re-write that section of the code to
get this to work correctly and is on my list of things to do...

73 Rick N2AMG

-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of iw1ayd -
Salvatore Irato
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 3:34 PM
To:rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Help--GRITTY and N1MM+

Unfortunately Hank it work like you wrote.

We are back on keyboard actions to emulate integration, that's not that
great as N1MM+ is really an automation champions under several point of
view. DOS times are gone since forever, out of some needed hands adjustments
... 821AYD TOO PPQ.

Thinking to the software integration perspective there are even other lacks.
All together are to be reworked from inside GRITTY and N1MM+.
Mains are inside GRITTY, just some are into N1MM+.
I.E. it's difficult to think that the already written data inside the GRITTY
screen could take place  into the DI window of N1MM+.
On the same side it is not useful that N1MM+ leave an unused DI added
decoder space when GRITTY is in use.

The Contest parameter doesn't change anything outside GRITTY. It have
meaning only for strings recognition inside GRITTY.

I strongly hope that Alex and the N1MM+ Dev. Team would have the time to
work around a full integrations of GRITTY and N1MM+.
One of the force of free software is this: to work all together. They all
have the skill and the knowledge to look at MMTTY and to mimic what's new
into what is needed, where is needed.

Only not free software work like this,  :
http://www.ziqurrat.it/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/03_10_2006_1.jpg
(this link come just from a google search, here is unarming, it is just
intended to give a view of a picture well known:  a swing project

              It will be great, great, great! (est, est, est)

                             73 de iw1ayd Salvo

PS What I have in mind s for integration is a fully funct ional set of
functions of both, GRITTY and N1MM+, as MMTTY and N1MM+ are placing on ours
desktops. This even considering the fact that GRITTY is a receive only
mechanism.
BTW external file logging is lacking on the GRITTY, fully, and 2Tone,
partially.
I strongly hope that these two free products may have a kick forward, GRITTY
need it somewhat strongly.

On 03/04/2016 18:00,rtty-request at contesting.com  wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 11:38:03 -0700
> From: Hank Garretson<w6sx at arrl.net>
> To:N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com, RTTY Reflector
> 	<rtty at contesting.com>
> Subject: [RTTY] Help--GRITTY and N1MM+
> Message-ID:
> 	<CABD27Um8d+FK4diy=OhUVUNL2qQv6tMQeAEdtAk3_C-+-bFOEQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
>
> Using N1MM+. I have MMTTY on DI1, 2Tone as DI RX Windows 1 and 2, and
> GRITTY as Window 3.
>
> N1MM help file and previous posts inception many months ago suggest
> that GRITTY is integrated and allows

clicking for calls and exchange elements.

>>> Gritty is already click compatible with N1MM.. Its been like that
>>> since its inception many months ago...
>>>
> That is not my experience.
>
> 1. Clicking on a call in GRITTY puts call into Entry window, BUT focus
> stays in GRITTY window. I have to manually move focus to N1MM before I
> can do anything.
>
> 2. Clicking on 013 013 013, instead of 013, puts 013 013 013 into
> number window. And, again, focus remains in GRITTY window.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Diddle Exuberantly,
>
> Hank, W6SX
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 13:00:26 -0700
> From: "Dave Hachadorian"<k6ll.dave at gmail.com>
> To: "reflector RTTY"<rtty at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Help--GRITTY and N1MM+
> Message-ID: <FBB953D2F13C46FAB4EFA9024684AD91 at Toshiba>
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> 	reply-type=original
>
> Hank,
>
> Not sure about this, but I think you have to select a contest in
> GRITTY.  Only the call sign seems to be clickable unless you have a
> contest selected, then the other elements become clickable.  I just
> started experimenting with GRITTY myself.
>
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> Yuma, AZ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hank Garretson
> Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 11:38 AM
> To:N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com   ; RTTY Reflector
> Subject: [RTTY] Help--GRITTY and N1MM+
>
> Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
>
> Using N1MM+. I have MMTTY on DI1, 2Tone as DI RX Windows 1 and 2, and
> GRITTY as Window 3.
>
> N1MM help file and previous posts inception many months ago suggest
> that GRITTY is integrated and allows clicking for calls and exchange
> elements.
>
>>> Gritty is already click compatible with N1MM.. Its been like that
>>> since its inception many months ago...
>>>
> That is not my experience.
>
> 1. Clicking on a call in GRITTY puts call into Entry window, BUT focus
> stays in GRITTY window. I have to manually move focus to N1MM
> before I can
> do anything.
>
> 2. Clicking on 013 013 013, instead of 013, puts 013 013 013 into
> number window. And, again, focus remains in GRITTY window.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Diddle Exuberantly,
>
> Hank, W6SX
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