[RTTY] FW: If you care about CW and RTTY - time is of the essence

Joe Subich, W4TV lists at subich.com
Tue Aug 16 09:35:33 EDT 2016


> How often are hams in the RTTY/data segment interfered with by 6 kHz
 > bandwidth signals that originate from hams now?

While it wasn't 6 KHz ... just this morning a PACTOR station fired up
right in the middle of the WSPR, JT-65 and JT-9 activity on 30 meters.

The interference was either a remote mail system or a user who was not
listening for existing activity since I could see at least 10 WSPR
signals within the passband of the PACTOR station and that many or more 
JT65 and JT9 signals that would have received QRM if the PACTOR station
had "up-shifted" to a faster protocol.

This is exactly the issue with both the automatically controlled
§97.221 (b) and "semi-automatically" controlled §97.221 (c) stations -
there is absolutely no concern for existing activity on any frequency.
PACTOR users are the only mode that believes "listen before transmit"
and "first come, first served" does not apply to them.  *THAT* is the
quintessential definition of *LID* and "intentional interference."

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 8/16/2016 6:49 AM, Matthew Pitts via RTTY wrote:
> Ron,
>
> How often are hams in the RTTY/data segment interfered with by 6 kHz bandwidth signals that originate from hams now? If the answer is they haven't been, you have your answer about the question.
>
> Matthew Pitts
> N8OHU
>
> On August 14, 2016 3:59:23 PM EDT, Ron Kolarik <rkolarik at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>> Matthew, it's happening now with the 97.221(c) stations. What makes you
>>
>> think the wide band stuff
>> will behave any better? The big problem is no one, not the FCC or the
>> ARRL, is watching or responding
>> to complaints.
>>
>> Ron K0IDT
>>
>>
>> On 8/14/2016 9:34 AM, Matthew Pitts via RTTY wrote:
>>> Some major flaws that I see in his argument are:
>>>
>>> 4: As I said before, claims of a massive increase in the number of
>> automatic stations or wide bandwidth digital voice stations swamping
>> the RTTY/Data bands are nothing more than FUD.
>>>
>>>
>>
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