At the risk of raising the ire of those who consider this old news, I need to know if anyone here has ever received a Makrothen certificate, and if you could please email me a good photo or scan of it. Thanks and 73 jeff wk6i -- Jeff Stai ~ wk6i.jeff at gmail.com Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/ Facebook ~ http://www.facebook.com/twistedoak